Posts by AllTimeJeff

This is to program you to see all the non JW world as evil, thats all. One of the first things you learn about "the world" is that it isn't nearly as evil as you heard it was.

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Threat of 1980 Rebellion/Schism--Real or Perceived?

by neverendingjourney in

jw
friends

the way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.

ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.

ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.

AllTimeJeff

Well, does respect mean agreement? Or can I disagree? Because it isn't an opinion, I know that what Ray Franz is right, and your views, while you are entitled to them, are wrong.

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Threat of 1980 Rebellion/Schism--Real or Perceived?

by neverendingjourney in

jw
friends

the way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.

ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.

ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.

AllTimeJeff

Thats better. Not by much. Why not call me Jeff and remove my name. You were not invited to use it.

And as for coping with your opinion, huh? I disagreed with it. Big difference, and I stated in very simple terms for your benefit, why.

You are on record as saying you do not believe Ray Franz and that you personally doubt his account. Duly noted. Anything else?

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To athiests who hate God

by EndofMysteries in

question, if this is true, in the book of enoch chapter 10:11-12, "all the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.12all the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of azazyel.

to him therefore ascribe the whole crime.

if that is god's truth, and your only accountable for your own wickedness and actions, would you feel guilty for your accusations against god?

AllTimeJeff

Uh, Shamus and Dinah got my drift...

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Threat of 1980 Rebellion/Schism--Real or Perceived?

by neverendingjourney in

jw
friends

the way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.

ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.

ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.

AllTimeJeff

Please remove my name from your post immedietely.

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To athiests who hate God

by EndofMysteries in

question, if this is true, in the book of enoch chapter 10:11-12, "all the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.12all the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of azazyel.

to him therefore ascribe the whole crime.

if that is god's truth, and your only accountable for your own wickedness and actions, would you feel guilty for your accusations against god?

AllTimeJeff

What if you titled it "To atheists who love god"?

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Threat of 1980 Rebellion/Schism--Real or Perceived?

by neverendingjourney in

jw
friends

the way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.

ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.

ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.

AllTimeJeff

Titus, its not that you aren't entitiled to your opinion, its just that you spew unsubstantiated bile that in most people's minds, is designed to, how shall I say it, "stirr shit."

You know who you're talking to, thats for sure. You just don't know what you're talking about.

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To athiests who hate God

by EndofMysteries in

question, if this is true, in the book of enoch chapter 10:11-12, "all the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.12all the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of azazyel.

to him therefore ascribe the whole crime.

if that is god's truth, and your only accountable for your own wickedness and actions, would you feel guilty for your accusations against god?

AllTimeJeff

What if your bad thoughts towards him are believing a lie against him, what if his goodness and kindness far exceed what you've known?

EOM, I think its more accurate to say that his purported goodness is more then anyone has seen. There is no evidence of that goodness. Sorry.

Btw, I am not an atheist, nor do I hate god.

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A Problem With General Christian Beliefs

by AllTimeJeff in

first of all, lets head off some potential problems before they start.

i am not doing this thread to argue.

if you would like to, thats fine.

AllTimeJeff

Thanks for sharing fuzzy paul. I am too tired to respond to this now, but I can appreciate how important your faith is, and sense your desire to be helpful.