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  holding off on my baptism???

  by madcow78596 in

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  so i've been studying with jws since april 2011.

  1 year later i decide to become an unbaptized publisher and take steps toward dedicating myself to jehovah.

  i'm a single working mother of 2 with what i will call a very "colored" past.

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  Gayle

  It sounds like you have concerns and that is rightful. Some make the mistake that when they lived in the past with no structure in their lives, they are attracted to a religion or cult with "over structure" for themselves. They go to extremes, especially for their children. However, the children get the brunt of a critical life of which causes negativity to the other direction.

  No one got a perfect parent, no matter how hard we try. But our kids must learn also from us, forgiveness, and joy. Don't teach your children to always wait till later in life for it to be good. Tens of thousands of JW kids were taught young, they will ride lions, tigers and bears "soon" in a new/different world. Majority of JW kids leave this religion eventually. The WTS puts such rules that just about make them skip being kids, light and free, only overly burdening these youth. The majority of the members at their Headquarters, circuit/ and district never had kids. What do they know. (rhetorical)

  Please be an unconditional loving mom for your children. They will be children such a short time. Your children are your ministry. You need no further burden, especially as a single mom. Encourage their schooling, sportsmanship, artistic abilities, ethics, love, joy and peace. They will be thankful to you, especially when they are grown. I was raised in JW at 9 yrs old, and married and had 5 kids when I realized I had to re-evaluate all WT teachings. My kids are grown now and thankful for their freedom of mind and heart and now I am a proud grandma. Good life happens outside the WT.
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  Oct. 22nd Zone Meeting: Here's some facts and figures presented to ticketed-only audiences

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  if we weren't invited, this is the "bragging" information we missed last saturday, oct. 22, 2011, at the zone meeting with tie-in from patterson, ny .

  59 locations tied-in plus spanish.

  anticipating 258,000 attendance from tickets given out.

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  Gayle

  bttt,, anyone going?,,is there a zone meeting this year, this month?
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  I wonder if they will write to all the 'anointed' or just suprise them at a meeting?

  by snare&racket in

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  writing to the partakers legitimises their claim of being anointed.

  they also dont trust these people so will they let them know early?.

  if they inform the munchers of emblems 'on the night' the whole cong will see the dissapointment, shock, despair, stabbed back.. on their faces as they are demoted to other sheep authority in this life, with the boss powers only coming in the next life.

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  Gayle

  If the partaking/annointed are upset, they will have to "wait on Jehovah" and it will be clarified in probably another '93 years.'
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  Sorry for another post on new light

  by bobld in

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  remember early 1990 when they made a sudden change to voluntary donations.to protect their assets.

  this(new light is a) sudden change when as recently as of jan.2012 wt.they said "in the parable,jesus indicated that from the first century onward,there would always be some geniune anointed christians on the earth.

  a post here indicated all gb members said"they research,read,reread.prey,etc, before they publish an article.

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  Gayle

  I agree, they do have a fear factor, paranoia, heading toward a panic mode. They are taking on a mammoth moving effort, selling properties and plans of rebuilding like crazy as they near scream out the end is coming soon, the end is coming very soon now.
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  Another Watchtower Property Sells in Brooklyn Heights

  by Gayle in

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  http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2012/10/another-watchtower-property-at-67-remsen-sells/.

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  Gayle

  http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2012/10/another-watchtower-property-at-67-remsen-sells/
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  We Need A Group Of Anointed To Challenge The Governing Body

  by DT in

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  i believe that a coup is one of the governing body's worst nightmares.. imagine a splinter group led by anointed ones that draw off enough of a following to cause confusion about who is directing the organization.. this may be one of the reasons the governing body removed the special status of the anointed and placed it on an organizational arrangement that they just happen to occupy.. the irony is that this action is a coup in itself.

  by declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree.

  these people have no obligation to follow these newly self appointed leaders.

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  Gayle

  I have wondered,,the 'reason' for the GB to see the need to get rid of the 'previous' f & d group (yet active within the org, closer, perhaps even at Headquarters ), ,, the previous f&d group are questioning too much, and rejecting stuff from the GB. Maybe some are getting vocal that the pedophile policy should get changed, that families shouldn't have to shun family, that the blood issue should get dropped, etc. that college should not be denied,etc.

  I know the GB just wants full power, nothing new about that,,but for a silly doctrine that has served them well for 94 yrs, to be radically changed now but needed because of a reason for them to enforce their authority above all others.

  Schism issue? Is this a preventative measure at this possibility?
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  After a couple of days pondering the "new light" FDS change . . .

  by leaving_quietly in

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  so, i've had a chance to ponder this "new light" of the change of definition of fds now for a couple of days.

  the initial reaction was of astonishment, and just plain anger, and i can see that i'm not alone in that.

  however (assuming matt 24:45-47 is prophetic, parable or not):.

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  Gayle

  Hopefully, some JWs will question,,if this (stupid, simpleton, truly unimportant to real life) "f&d" issue took the GB '94 years' about to get clarified, when Jesus and the holy spirit were supposed to be now turning all universal direction to this earth and God's grand supposed work . ..

  the question is: what else? do they need to get clarifed?? Will the 'blood transfusion' issue get clarified yet? (when people are dying over it now & children) Will shunning family get clarifed? JWs must 'wait on Jehovah' or are they to wait on men, their GB? But for 94 years? . . . . .
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  2012 Annual Meeting: MORE notes...

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  from a reliable source...provides further confirmation on the gb's new status.

  these are from the symposium part on the new light.. .

  jeoff jackson - how is spiritual food prepared?.

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  Gayle

  odd,,they claim God chose "special group" in 1919? but it took these "special" group some 94 years later to figure out who's who. absurd
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  Timing of new "faithful & discreet slave class" teaching

  by sir82 in

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  the following is pure, 100% speculation, but i think it's fun to do anyway..... .

  as has been posted on numerous threads, the "biggie" coming out of the annual meeting this past weekend is that now the "faithful and discreet slave" is considered to be the jw governing body only - not "all anointed nes on earth".. and has been posted, it seems that the most recent direct statement of the "old light" - that the fds is composed of "all anointed" - was made in 2009.. so that makes me think - what happened between 2009 & 2012 to elicit such a change?.

  both jack barr & ted jaracz - the last of the "old guard" - died in 2010.. the gb went from 9 members down to 7.. assuming that the "2/3 majority" rule as written about by ray franz was still in effect, this scenario seems plausible:.

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  Gayle

  Just wondering, why now, are the GB concerned about they themselves are this "faithful and discreet slave" and no others?

  They have for many years been the 'say' and the rulers and of the highest order of organizational rules and doctrinal.

  They don't want anyone who even 'claim' to be of the "f & d slave" class now. Why? Of course, it is not for any scriptural advantage or clarity.

  Are they concerned that some, anyone, of this former group to try to take over their positions? Is it a form of paranoia at the possibility? Is there an internal coup feared or schism?

  Why are they changing this now of all the other concerns? Yes, there has to be another real reason.
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  2 months of "intensive training". Anybody know what it is?

  by donny in

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  i am in dallas for the week and my mom informed me that my 32 year old son, who is an elder in a spanish congregation, told her that he and his wife are going to los angeles for 2 months for some "intensive training" and afterwards they may return to dallas or be reassigned elsewhere.

  he said it was not missionary work, but it was something new the society was doing.

  any clues as to wht this "new" thing is?

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  Gayle

  Isn't this the 'new' Gilead course? Not the previous Gilead course for several (6-8 mos) to prepare for foreign countries.

  Now it is to train for "trouble-shooters." To send in their same country of citizenship to locations of existing congregations who have extra problems, more than 'normal.'