22 baptized with attendance at about 6,000 = .367%. Low ratio. Then, in many conventions it is observed to be mostly JW youth, as the WTS is making the call for 10 yr olds to get baptized.
Posts by Gayle
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44The first of many 2013 District Conventions is over . . .
by bats in the belfry inwas it worth attending?.
is your survival more sure now?.
which part of gods word is truth!
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WTS admits U.S. pubs. # not keeping up w/U.S. population #
by Gayle inin the worldwide service reports show:.
2010 pubs were 1/259 population.
so there it shows pubs "not" keeping up with population!
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Gayle
In the Worldwide Service Reports show:
2010 pubs were 1/259 population
2011 1/261
2012 1/266
So there it shows pubs "not" keeping up with population! Of course, the pubs. don't 'catch' this.
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2013 Drama: "Show Yourself Attentive"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the first of three "dramas" this dc, and i have to say, it was one of the weirdest dramas ever.
i won't go through all the details.
maybe someone else wants to throw in their 2c.. it starts out with two men standing on the "beach" talking, but it took me awhile to figure out what in the hell was going on.
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Gayle
Well, not always, but for some, losing a loved one, very prematurely due to accident or health, can really jump start a time to re-evaluate what 'soon' means when talking about a resurrection. JWs can only come up with that the resurrection will be 'soon,' actually becomes irritating as the years start to pass. Often, for JWs the full "grieving process" is delayed. At least, other beliefs don't teach this kind of concept of loved ones coming back "soon." ~~ Wasn't there a part there in the drama about "having our loved one in our heart . . . ?" That part is a common phrase even among non-JWs.
I also think of many of us have been in dramas and are clearly out of the organization now. A lot I am sure. I knew one former Bethelite gal who was used for a little girl's voice often back in dramas in the early '70s. I got a call from her back in the early '80s and she was out of the organization and in her sweet voice calling it clearly "a cult."
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The broken COUNTDOWN CLOCK to Doomsday
by Terry inthe very satisfying nature of events which are behind us is that they exist as history.. there is nothing provisional or speculative about occurances that have already taken place.. we have written records in black and white as to how the word "generation" was manipulated over the years by the watchtower.. the gb was looking into the future each time they employed "generation" in order to leverage the readers of their publications into.
activity.. there is no better way to prove the dishonesty of watchtower leaders than to examine the entire history of the "generations" teaching!.
when 1925 turned the president of the watchtower society into a "jackass" all credibility should have ended for him.. he was the new leader with wrong predictions.
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Gayle
Their "clock" has stopped. Their 'holding pattern' is turning into a lot of static.
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My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)
by sosoconfused inthe only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.
i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.
my wife is backing me and i have my children.
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Gayle
ugh,,so sorry,, that letter is so hard and depressing. The Watchtower only blames and guilts and then their believers do the same.
It is so wise of you to see the need to move on for your immediate family's sake. Your children and their future. Your children will be taught a better way. not perfect, but better, about unconditional love. Children deserve and need that in their early years, for their grounding and emotional security. Your children will be spared to ever receive a letter like you got. Your children can grow up without 'dread' to such an extent.
As many of us have had to decide, now is the time to stop the 'madness.'
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New Trend in Dramas?
by breakfast of champions inso it used to be that all dramas were ot.
period, that was it.. then they started incorporating a "modern day" application of the ot drama where actors in the present day reflected on the story.. then they started using some highly fictionalized nt characters in dramas (never jesus of course).
in the past few years we've been getting more "modern dramas", just about people in the present dealing with their "problems".
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Gayle
Interesting,,guess they have to get "futuristic" as their "present" day dramas are all depressing. They have no way to embrace any joy in their "present." They are emotionally suffocating.
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Overlapping Generations: A wacky kool-aid thread
by RayPublisher inanother wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.
they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.
warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.
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Gayle
even 2 more years will take anesthesia from Jehovah to get thru what is ahead!"
Shows the 'depressed' state of JW outlook. It is such an unhealthy state and they choose to remain in that for the rest of their lives. ugh.
Shows that JWism is their "drug" of choice, and some have another 'drug' or two additional.
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Week of worry
by gma-tired2 inmy husband and i have had a long week worrying we would lose our niece, and yes the blood issue was very much part of the problem.
it is new to us to actually have the blood issue affect our family, but it really makes you think.
we would have immediately given her blood, but she and husband are still jws.
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Gayle
No one from the Blood Liason has even been there.
That is strange. isn't it? No elders either? The nieces mom (tho DF'd) is there and obviously that is the young couples wishes. Sounds like the couple doesn't want any JWs in cong. around? Hmmm.
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2013 Sept WT out
by Gayle incould only just quickly scan it.
still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.. in a similar way, at the beginning.
of the 20th century, there were a number.
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Gayle
could only just quickly scan it. Still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.
In a similar way, at the beginning
of the 20th century, there were a number
of wrong expectations among true
Christians regarding “the last days.”
(2 Tim. 3:1) For instance, in the year
1914, some thought that their being taken
to heaven was imminent
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sorry, can't change the font size here,,,but also another intimidating reference about another 10 yr getting baptized,, poor kids, ugh
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jw.org store in Rouen, France
by breakfast of champions inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
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Gayle
France 2012 Service Report shows 1% increase,, France had a .5% population increase (http://www.indexmundi.com/france/demographics_profile.html),, so WTS not booming any much there!