Absolutely horrible!! Even movies with such content are forbidden for such ages, let alone for something 'real.' What a hateful, despicable mom to impose such a thing on her child.
Posts by Gayle
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41Mother Forces 5 Year-Old Son To . . .
by Zandor incan anyone here, lay person or professional describe or give insights into the effects the following has on a child?.
when my friend, the middle child of 3 siblings, was five years old, his mother took him by the hand and led him to the house where his father was having an affair with another woman.
she opened the door to confront her husband who was actually in the act of having sex with the other woman, and deliberately exposed her young son to this drama.. .
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The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.
by Stand for Pure Worship inan average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
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Gayle
Is your number of worldwide Congs. 111,795 for 2013? Because this shows a little higher than shown on the 2012 Service Year Report. Just wondering.
The Seventh Day Adventists also have higher stats than JWs. Soooooooo,,,,,,,,,,,?
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Can the jw organization be reformed?
by wannaexit ini know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
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Gayle
My first response is, No!
Now, they have "revised" their (Holy) New World Translation. I assume they did this "revised" edition and work for a need or reason. Some revision is needed but what? Will these revised words help them to 'revise' or 'reform' their teachings? But for their good? Or, to a stronger hold on their people/workers? Are they secure enough to work within truth and love, or control?
My second response is, No! Not toward the good!
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Historical evidence for Christmas and Christs birthday
by DS211 ini just read this feom 4jehovah.org.
there is a historical basis for the december 25th date of christs birth.
justin martyr (100-165 a.d.) wrote marcus aurelius that jesus was born at bethlehem as you can ascertain also from the registers of the taxing.
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Gayle
Here's average weather in Bethlehem for December. No freezing temperatures noted. Sheep and shepherds would be fine in those temps.
Check accuweather.com, for Bethlehem in December. Shows average temps, "historical evidence" averages.
Sorry, can't do a copy & paste. Maybe someone here can put on here for convenience for others?
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WT 01/15/14 - Admonition to mid-50s JWs waking up
by bats in the belfry inand possibly preparing for a life with a pension plan before it is to late.
reminder: that's the generation that was told they never will get old in this system.. .
thus, the kick in the butt from wtbts (wt, january 15, 2014, pages 22-26):.
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Gayle
And the GB have no personal experience on taking care of aging parents, nor raising children.
Maybe the GB now are picking on their 50+ year olds because that's about all they're going to have left. Most JW youth are seeing the reality of the JW dilemmas.
The GB will dump more and more on the ones remaining.
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Gayle
Very sad for him. I hope he will come back, if this is truly from him. "Fitting in" somewhere, is more about "fitting' into your own heart and mind with personal honesty. There is such an unhappy sound of a 'coercion' and misery in his opening post.
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why using a tablet at the platform during the meeting?
by Gorbatchov ini can't understand why the governing body aka fds has to deside about using a tablet by the speaker at the platform.. why using a tablet anyway at the platform?.
just a toy to keep the youth inside the congregation.. gorby.
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Gayle
Seems in this day and age, that people can take "computer" classes and with their tablets, and don't have to go to an actual class. Of course, they "are not to forsake the gathering of each other." But would seem many would gradually develop into a convenience of that in time. Then again, the WTS knows that their members need to have the elders in their face for the needed control.
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Organized to Do Jehovahs Will
by juliew ini found a copy of this book in my childs room at my home.
i am not a jw but their other parent is.. .
should i be concerned.
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Gayle
Here in Arizona, I went to a court with a non-JW mom (I met through this site in fact) who went to court about concern that her 3 children could be baptized JW. The judge asked the JW father what age the JWs baptize,,the father said "at age of maturity." The judge asked "at what age is that?" The father said that the child is asked several questions by the elders to determine if they were mature enough. Surprisingly. the judge said then that 'he' would question the children also to determine if they were mature." The judge also required that the mother should receive 90 day notice before any baptism of the children and then she would have to inform the court.
A year later I contacted her to see how things were going. She was happy to say that the kids weren't even going to meetings with their dad. Sounds like to her that the father wasn't going to meetings either, at least not when the kids were with him.
I had never heard of a judge requiring that order before.
The non-JW mom also requested that only the 'father' could have a personal Bible Study with the children and not any elders nor anyone else in the cong. The judge granted that also.
The mom also requested the kids not go to meetings at the Kingdom Hall. Of course, the judge didn't grant that. But in all, I was amazed at what she did accomplish.
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"Jehovah's visible organization can use you, but can get along without you" Quote Watchtower
by Watchtower-Free incan't you just feel the love of the org.. .
*** watchtower 50 1/15 p. 26 par.
22 who will share in the final witness?
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Gayle
Knorr was more direct to those of us at Bethel in early '70s:
"I brought you in and I can take you out!"
Basically back then, we knew there that Knorr 'was' the GB, but he let Freddie have some things to say here and there.
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Confusedandalone is in need of a name change
by confusedandalone inhey everyone, i want to apologize for not rtesponding to a number of messages i recieved over the last month or so.
i took a break as suggested by someone else to try and sort things out and clear my head.
my wife has been reading alot on here and kept me updated on all the fun that has been going on!.
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Gayle
Sounds like the elders are the "confused" ones. They just probably don't want to DF you.
I know of one who left the org. The elders didn't want to 'approach' him either, he totally baffled them. Finally, for his kids, he put up Christmas lights. He was notified by a relative in a different country, that he was DF'd. He was never informed by the elders.
Well, Christmas is in a couple months.