Posts by Gayle

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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012

by WatchTower87 in

confidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

Gayle

The Candace Conti case (started 1/28/11) and judgement was 9/17/12 . This letter, copy, is dated Oct 12, 2012. The letter states,, The branch office, not the local body of el-ders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a “predator.”

Wow, the audacity after having lost that court case.!! Candace Conti case went to Appeals Court, set up 9/25/12. Hopefully, a copy of this letter was received by her lawyer as soon as possible.

cc,,thank you for your report indicating a bit of a change 'now' by the WTS. But it may be that you are in a U.S. state ('hot' state for them), that has firm laws on this issue, and the WTS well knows it. Then, the WTS only modified their policy on this, only because of legal laws now, nothing to do with 'new light' from Jehovah. But, what if in a another state or another country such laws are not so defined, then, we can surmise that the WTS gives a different message there.

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

Gayle

I wonder why they even 'publish' the partaker numbers if the increasing numbers bothers them? It would seem a good number of active members would be asking them about that by now?

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

Gayle

a lot of inactive JWs? :) just kidding.

some of their bible students

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Thinking of taking a break from this forum

by yadda yadda 2 in

starting to feel my time is wasted on here lately and its time to move on.. some of the best, meaty stuff only gets a few hundreds views and as soon as the posts dry up a bit the thread is soon forgotten (usually in a few days) under the constantly falling snowflakes of new threads (many trival) continuously being created and popping up as 'active topics'.

the same core jw related subjects then keep reappearing over and over again as new threads without getting a thorough treatment at the time (eg, there must be at least one 'are jw's a cult' thread started each week on here; 'new light' topics get about 20 new threads started with the quality of analysis spread and diluted over all of them.).

anyone else tend to feel the same way at times?.

Gayle

yadda, pls don't go for long,, i back off every few days too,,I am so sorry specifically right now, but you have had such pointed things of value, I know,,I say what I sincerely want to say or certain parts,,sometimes, I feel chopped down by a commenter , but a few jump up and say it together harmonized perfectly,,it is so grand! So supportive. Anyway, every one should have a point of view, our experience is true,, to be accepted or not.

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

Gayle

all's I've heard - it's at about what it was in 1961..higher as you all expect,,I found thru "search" at:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/136010/2/Memorial-Partaker-totals-for-72-years-by-request

shows at: 13,911

another search site shows somthing else: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/136010/2/Memorial-Partaker-totals-for-72-years-by-request

shows at: 13,284

??? a range there, but higher than what it has been for awhile.

jwfacts = Paul ???

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'Deal with it!' - WT, in so many words

by Gayle in

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friends

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20091101/spouse-special-needs/.

an article if a marriage partner has a chronic health issue.

no - did not mention something like - 'just read the bible & you'll feel better.

Gayle

Thank you so much, SfPW,, for pointing out that the article was a 'public' edition. Certainly, what the WTS says to the general public is more positive, 'practical' and more 'publicly' correct. So different, than for the 'members' insiders directions/suggestions. (Yes, I agree also, that many JWs do go the extra in helping personally 'some' in congs. to get to meetings, 'some' household chores and 'some' social visits.) I know also, that Bethel has it 'very' organized in having doctors, nurses, caregivers, and all normal household amenities to assist their aging, at least the ones they keep.

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Strange things happening...

by DS211 in

jw
friends

some strange things are happening.. 1. wife started smoking.

2. wife agreed that the whole "clean up after armageddon while growing to perfection" thing is all speculation.. 3. as i was going to the meeting tonight (i had a part and kids are sick so she stayed in) she says "do you have to go?"..

4. when i got home she says " i wanna go out and party..... hmmmmmm.

Gayle

Go dancing,,ball room ,, plan something,,bowling,,movie out,, always on meeting nights,,short trips out of town, on the go always during meeting times. Sports, hikes. Volunteer for a worthwhile cause,,so many things to do.

Celebrate life!!

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'Deal with it!' - WT, in so many words

by Gayle in

jw
friends

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20091101/spouse-special-needs/.

an article if a marriage partner has a chronic health issue.

no - did not mention something like - 'just read the bible & you'll feel better.

Gayle

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20091101/spouse-special-needs/

an article if a marriage partner has a chronic health issue

no - did not mention something like - 'just read the Bible & you'll feel better.' instead picture shows to do a puzzle together.

no - did not mention go in field service to somehow feel better-

no- did not mention to talk to elders about it. (Proven fact; elders don't help with such things. kind of too bad, so sad attitude)

no- no promise of the new world coming so soon.

Eventually, they may even render themselves unable to continue providing care for their beloved mate. No mention on how one's would process that one. Certainly, nothing within organization for any such services. And the 'cost?' when most JWs already are just eke-ing by.

Basically. ones are on their own. Sad thing and reality, as many to most JWs are aging and getting health problems. The WT message is ending up very empty and nothing to offer and very unpromising.

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Interview with an "Apostate": Losingit

by losingit in

i was always in the top of my class in school and participated in many afterschool activities.

it was the best experience of my life.

i was 19 at the time.

Gayle

So loved reading your story. I love reading books by former JWs. Having a site with countless "Interviews" of former JWs is priceless. Hearing/reading these accounts, shows such learned/experienced found strengths of each interviewee. Not feeling alone in this process makes such a difference.

Some day I hope there is a free e-book like "I am an ex-Jehovah's Witness (but not alone)" with a collection of personal experiences. Each account is a book in itself, but requiring less time but much encouragement for the many in this process.

I am a grandma now and becoming a mom pushed me many times through the process of leaving the cultism. I am thrilled none of my 5 children became JWs and they are thankful too. Your children will be forever grateful having a mom like you, willing to grow and encouraging them to grow in so many positive ways and giving them the opportunity of free minds and hearts.

Best wishes to you!

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Inspirational (2 minute) ex-Mormon video (series)

by Fernando in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3lvkgn_hta.

Gayle

Thx, Fernando!! May be some day, there will be such an "ex-Jehovah's Witness" site. Obviously, the ex-Mormons have a very good 'pro-active' group!