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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  Gayle

  such programs can overly complicate matters.

  The WT "truth" is a "program." Complicates 'everything.'
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  FEWER NEW ZEALAND CITIZENS AFFILIATED WITH JWS IN 2013 THAN IN 1996: SUCCESSIVE YEARS OF DECREASE

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  fewer new zealand citizens affiliated as jws in 2013 than in 1996: over 15 years of successive decreases.

  the first table shows the new zealand census from 1976 to 2013. typically, numbers of citizens affiliated with the witnesses are higher than the number of active publishers because it includes children and those who are affiliated with the witnesses but who may not be active publishers.. of note, more citizens were recorded as affiliated with the witnesses in 1996 (19,527) than in 2013 (17,931).

  the decline in numbers affiliating with the witnesses in new zealand started in 2001 and has continued across two further census reports - so this is not just a temporary blip.

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  Gayle

  On the Census, does this mean possibly counting children, not publishing yet. I mean does the Census ask a household of JWs, which includes non-publishing that all are counted, even if there was an UBM, would be counted as a JW anyway.

  Maybe also, some tho not publishing the previous year, some may still wanted to be counted as so, maybe with intent to activate, or reactivate.

  Now, it indicates that less people if no longer active, have any intent of returning someday either, and don't want to be counted as JW at all.
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  War over preparing for WT study

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.

  with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.

  anyway the situation is the following.

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  Gayle

  Isn't it cold and flu season? Maybe you could cancel thru the season?

  Does the org 'require' underlining answers? Is it a disfellowshipping or 'marking' offense! This is just too negative and insulting to bring into your home.

  Maybe you should set up a 'contribution' box for 'your' home expense!
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  Avoid or call them back?

  by Angus Beef in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  daughter missed a call from an elder tonight...we've missed meetings for about a month now.

  she is dating a worldly guy and i'm sure someone has seen them together.

  makes us nervous and with us being fairly new to the fading facet... should she call or avoid.

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  Gayle

  AVOID them> they have no authority over you> SINCE YOU are new to the fading<< allow yourself plenty more time.
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  Relocation of UK Bethel

  by krejames in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard a rumour that the uk hq is moving from mill hill in london to a location in essex near chelmsford.

  explanation being that it's closer to the transport networks.

  anyone know anymore?.

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  Gayle

  "We won't be knocking on people's doors, that's not the case, we're busy with other things," he said.

  "But we do organise tours to show people around the locations. As a charity relying on donations, Jehovah's Witnesses will come from all over Britain to see what their money is being spent on.

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  going to have a "hospital" ==??? for their elderly

  it’s going to be good fun.”
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  Does Anyone Feel the Ministerial School Helped Them?

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a born-in, i was eager to join the ministry school.

  my cousins were also born-in but lived in different states.

  there was keen competition to see who could do mature things, such as baptism (my mom said when i was 35) and ministry school.

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  Gayle

  NO!!!
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  2014 Yearbook Stats - 7 Countries account for > 50% growth

  by Westenddave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thought i'd share the 2014 yearbook stats.

  i converted the file to excel format & sorted the increase in publisher's column from largest to smallest.

  as i suspected, the growth is limited to a very few # of "lands.

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  Gayle

  sometimes when the org, gets into a 'new' area, there can be a burst of energy at the newness,,new hopes,,new friends, love bombing and much, much forgiveness. After awhile, tiredness sets in, disappointments, realities of disfellowshippings, over demands of the org life. as said, worse thing for a cult is: TIME. No doubt the WTS will burn out even faster those in foreign countries if third-world. Japan had an amazing growth years ago,,slowly and steadily decreasing.

  A cult needs 'new blood.' Or it gets meaner and more demanding like a beast.
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  Two circuits in Ohio dissolved!

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  announced that two ohio circuits are to be dissolved including 5 congregations.

  congregations in the dissolved circuits will be assigned to two existing circuits.

  the excuse the letter offered is that people are moving, or that people are retiring and leaving the area.

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  Gayle

  http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/bigeight.html
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  Our Kingdom ministry March 2013 Question

  by RobertT18 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it true that the march ministry is hinting that this year will be the last memorial, someone just said that today in the service, just wanted to confirm.. .

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  edit: forgot to add the month..

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  Gayle

  The WT writers are very manipulative.. they make it sound like their are saying something specific ,,they throw 4 Will this Memorial be our last? (1 Cor. 11: 26) (with intonation almost as a fact) We do not know. then after the time period, then they say, emphasize, they didn't say something. they artists of double-tongue.
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  2013 Report - difference in av. pubs compared to % of baptisms

  by likeabird in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just took the first page of the 2013 report and added two new columns to look at alternative ways of calculating the 'increase'.

  first column: 2013 av.

  pubs minus 2012 av.

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  Gayle

  U.S.: 85 avg. pubs/cong. 183 attendance/Memorial/cong. So, 98 non-pubs attended Memorial. Everyone gets excited about Attendance number. Of these, the cong. has to get 3 attenders for year to become publishers (whether new or reactivated) to get at least an increase of 1% (the increase noted last two years each) (avg. cong. odds that one pub. will die and one will be DF'd)

  Pubs. avg. .6 Bible study, so avg. cong. has 52 Bible studies. Avg. cong. had 2.3 baptized.

  Avg. cong. has 11 reg. pios. and 5 aux. pios/mo. Avg. pub (aside from Pios) is 9.8 hr/mos. Population Ratio was same for 2013 as 2012: 1 pub to 262 U.S. pop.