Gayle

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  Does a brother have to be appointed an MS to be an account servant?

  by 4thgen in

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  as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.

  i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.

  yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.

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  Gayle

  My mom was an acct servant back in early '60s, small congregation, where the "need was great"er.
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  Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?

  by The Rebel in

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  when i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.

  however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.

  anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.

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  exciting,, I just get that when new ones come on site here & make their first comment. at least he is making contact with you. In the name of "business." Just a thought, it has happened, that ones were disfellowshipped just eating at a restaurant with a DA/DF'd person. Maybe? he could just pick up your check at your place, (easy cover) and come in a moment, simple chat, cup of coffee, and see where conversation goes from there?i
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  Unbaptised son maybe asked to be in assembly ... Suggestions please!

  by 4thgen in

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  2. family

  my husband and i are divorced.

  i have custody of my tween son.

  i left 3 years ago on principle.

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  Maybe if he starts wearing suits pants just a little "tight"/fitted they won't want to use him in any parts?. Hmmmmmm.
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  Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!

  by The Searcher in

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  information just passed to me.

  let's hope this becomes even more widespread.

  i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?

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  makes me wonder with all the reversals, deletions, etc. if the day will come when there will again only be 3 elders of sorts per cong. like the old days, congregation servant, assistant cong. servant, & secretary/treasurer servant (maybe different titles tho). ???
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  Bethel layoff question

  by CookieMonster in

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  hi,.

  with the layoffs of bethelites and special pioneers, does anyone know if they get some sort of "redundancy" payout?

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  Gayle

  The Bethelites would have to re,-apply with no "bad attitude," otherwise won't get to reg. Pio. either. So if they go out of bethel or spec. Pio. complaining, then no reg. Pio, elder position, etc.

  I think that clip of interviewing former D.O.s on JW.org -- they spoke well of their readjustment, because they know how that works.
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  About 'Regular' Pioneers

  by Gayle in

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  now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.

  who would have ever thought?.

  yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?

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  I suspect most dismissed Bethelites will not take up Reg. Pio., or not for long anyway. Unless they have family or someone helping. But the reality of working in the 'real' world and seeing how easily and quickly the org. can dismiss them and devalue them will hit hard.
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  About 'Regular' Pioneers

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
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  now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.

  who would have ever thought?.

  yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?

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  Now that District Overseers have been deleted, now that Bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, Now that Special Pioneers are being deleted in U.S., and maybe elsewhere gradually. Who would have ever thought?

  Yet, now what is the value to be a Regular Pioneer to the org? Yes, the org. doesn't have to pay anything for them. I suppose they create some extra hype in congregations and some may get others to go in service more. So what! In the U.S., on the average of baptisms to RPs it takes 4.4 full-time RPs to 1 baptism per year (160,273/36,064). According to some reports, about half baptized are JW kids, therefore, it may take 8 or 9 regular pioneers on avg. to bring in one baptized. No doubt, many to most are just pubs. that have snagged someone some other way to get baptized.

  Really, what is their value to the org? Do RPs donate financially much to the org? I expect most don't donate much.

  Does the org. need them?
  
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  Where are you from?

  by BeautifulMind in

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  i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

  but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

  i currently live in georgia, usa.

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  Gayle

  Phoenix, AZ,

  I have been out for about 30 yrs. but could only be open or public about for 20 yrs.
  
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  2015--10/19-and10/29-BOEs!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  disregard if already posted.. .. 2015, 10/19/boe.

  .. click the green download button.. re: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015 .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/vistoa4.

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  Comical, how the letter states Britain had an increase in reg. pio. in Sept. Then, state also, that Ireland had 791 reg. pio. I checked Ireland's 2014 Service Report, stating last year had 847, that's a near 7% decrease. Funny example, how they play their statistics./
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  New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

  7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

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  Gayle

  I suspect many, to possibly half, some very aging mothers are contacting their DF'd grown children secretly. They cannot accept in their heart that their child is 'that' bad, or that someone in the congregation really stumbled them, or that their father was too harsh, etc. I remember hearing some aging mothers admitting that.

  There has been a teeter-tottering of that for many. Many struggling in their personal lives on that. For some grandmas, it was the only way for them to get to see their grandchildren. To deny most aging women her children and grandchildren, will leave her a very embittered finale of her life. ( some are hard-nosed, by their nature anyway.)

  Since the organization is an aging group, 2/3 of their youth leaving, and since most of the aging, are female who become depressed and bitter they create their own 'doom.'
  

  Grandma Gayle