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  PDF, the Watchtower August 15, 2009

  by possible-san in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now, in my japanese forum, the watchtower august 15, 2009 (pdf, 32mb) is downloadable.. but only a registrant can access.. http://bb2.atbb.jp/strongwings/viewtopic.php?p=1598#1598.

  it is deleted within about one week.. .

  http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/.

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  Gayle

  I haven't read it, skimmed it quickly, just saw a couple times,,restatements 1914 "time of the end."
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  Residents building 50,000-square-foot Jehovah's Witnesses assembly hall

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/robot-99398-vinci-espinoza.html.

  residents building 50,000-square-foot jehovah's witnesses assembly hallcomments 2| recommend 1. june 27, 2009 - 9:09 pmby gabriel saldana, valley morning star video goes here la feria - contractors, construction machinery, power generators and rv trailers are strewn about a 30-acre construction site on south parker road.. the workers there are not paid and the land on which they are building was donated like much of the heavy machinery they use.

  the rest of the machinery is rented with donated money.. everyone at the construction site of the 2,500-seat jehovah's witnesses assembly hall is a volunteer.

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  Gayle

  I thought I read recently that future Kingdom Halls plans were going to be put off for a couple years. I guess the building committee members will all be down there in Texas. It would probably be worth their while to build hotel(s) while they're at it, restaurants, gas stations, drive-thrus for their packed lunches for the day at the assembly - more revenue for the Watchtower Society, no?

  Those South Texans must have a lot of money down there to put something like this up during these times.
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  Residents building 50,000-square-foot Jehovah's Witnesses assembly hall

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/robot-99398-vinci-espinoza.html.

  residents building 50,000-square-foot jehovah's witnesses assembly hallcomments 2| recommend 1. june 27, 2009 - 9:09 pmby gabriel saldana, valley morning star video goes here la feria - contractors, construction machinery, power generators and rv trailers are strewn about a 30-acre construction site on south parker road.. the workers there are not paid and the land on which they are building was donated like much of the heavy machinery they use.

  the rest of the machinery is rented with donated money.. everyone at the construction site of the 2,500-seat jehovah's witnesses assembly hall is a volunteer.

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  Gayle

  http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/robot-99398-vinci-espinoza.html

  Residents building 50,000-square-foot Jehovah's Witnesses assembly hall

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  June 27, 2009 - 9:09 PM By GABRIEL SALDANA, Valley Morning Star

  LA FERIA - Contractors, construction machinery, power generators and RV trailers are strewn about a 30-acre construction site on South Parker Road.
  The workers there are not paid and the land on which they are building was donated like much of the heavy machinery they use. The rest of the machinery is rented with donated money.
  Everyone at the construction site of the 2,500-seat Jehovah's Witnesses assembly hall is a volunteer. The 50,000-square-foot building is expected to be complete in late December and will serve as a meeting place for 157 Jehovah's Witnesses congregations across South Texas, officials said.
  "If you take a straight line from Corpus (Christi) to Laredo, everything south (of that line)," Dan Castillo, one of the project's managers, said describing the area where the congregations are located.
  "The building itself and parking will be built on a 20-acre tract," he said.
  The assembly hall, which will cost between $4.8 million and $5.4 million when completed, is also expected to boost business in the city and surrounding areas, La Feria Assistant Manager Darla Jones said.
  "We're going to have all these people coming into town on the weekends ... eating at our restaurants, buying gas at our gas stations, staying in our hotels," she said. "We're going to need more hotels; we're going to need more restaurants."
  The hall is expected to bring more than 1,000 local people and travelers into the city weekly.
  "Our church has assemblies throughout the Valley all year long," Castillo said. "It will be used approximately 42 weeks out of the year.
  "The minimum amount of attendees would be 1,800. The maximum would be 3,000."
  The hall will hold about 38 regular meetings a year for the different circuits in the region.
  "Every six months, circuits - and there are about 22 congregations in a circuit - form a group and have a weekend meeting. So maybe about 1,500 people or 2,000 will come," Project Administrator Keith Hutchison said.
  "Those are just the circuit assemblies," Castillo added. "We also have special assemblies, which are eight additional assemblies (per year.)"
  Hutchison said volunteers include congregation members from across the country, although the donated money came from members in the South Texas region.
  He said the construction project has already started pumping money into local businesses.
  "The machinery, some of it has been loaned to us from somebody that came out of Round Rock. ...The others we rent," he said. "We pay Hertz Rental, a local company. So there's tens of thousands of dollars going into the local rental companies and diesel companies and gas companies and electric companies."
  The building itself will be built using some of the most stringent regulations in the country, city and Jehovah's Witnesses officials said.
  "We build a quality building, not one that's going to be a detriment to the community or an eyesore," Hutchison said. "They design it using the highest code standards in the United States. So it's built (to withstand) 130-mile (per hour) winds."
  He said the hall will be built according to national standards that exceed those used by big-box retailers including H-E-B and Home Depot.
  Currently, volunteers are working on the site's foundation and infrastructure. Stage two of development, the interior fit-out, is slated to start at the beginning of August.
  "It's going to be a tilt-wall construction," Hutchison said.
  Tilt-wall construction is where entire concrete walls are raised using cranes. The walls, said Jones, have built-in holes for running conduit wire and plumbing.
  Castillo said that once complete, the project will have cost between $4.8 million and $5.4 million. It was conceived at an August 2007 meeting in Elsa with Jehovah's Witnesses elders who approved the plan.
  "From there, they started just pouring in their donations," Castillo said.
  More than 200 volunteers working on jobs ranging from tractor operation to janitorial work crowd the site on any given day, officials said.
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  "I'm Perfect, You're Doomed" discussion...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone read this book?.

  i figured i had to comment because everyone was telling me oh tim, youre going to love this book.

  she went to the same assemblies as you, she was raised in a similar household, she did poetry slams as well.

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  Gayle

  I especially found interesting that she had trouble catagorizing serious sins, and just lumped sins together in one big "don't go there" bucket in her mind.

  This is created by the Watchtower. It stresses every little thing as big deal, wraps it all up with a scripture like "faithful in little, faithful in much." The Society makes kids feel so guility about every little thing, they often finally give up.
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  WHAT DO JWS THINK OF MICHAEL JACKSON?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any takers?.

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  Gayle

  Most of the older ones would be extremely critical and say, "see what happens when you leave Jehovah." I think the youth of that time adored him or at least his music and secretly still do.
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  JW District Convention Cyprus

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article was in the cyprus mail today (sat 27 june):.

  jehovahs witness convention in limassol next weekend.

  jehovahs witnesses will discuss their beliefs on the end of the world during their three-day district convention in limassol next month.. .

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  Gayle

  Sorry, those statistics were for Cyprus itself.

  Also, please any who are inclined, to write the editor.
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  JW District Convention Cyprus

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article was in the cyprus mail today (sat 27 june):.

  jehovahs witness convention in limassol next weekend.

  jehovahs witnesses will discuss their beliefs on the end of the world during their three-day district convention in limassol next month.. .

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  Gayle

  I emailed a letter just now..thank you for the email address. Definitely the Watchtower Society needs exposure of negative ways.

  The 2008 Annual Report of Jehovah's Witness shows:

  Increase last year of 5%,,2008 peak publishers (those that report time) 2,233, , 98 people baptized.

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  What I wrote to the editor:

  I am writing regarding Jehovah's Witnesses. Most people there are sincere however they are required to dedicate their life at baptism to the Watchtower Society, the "spirit-directed (???) organization". No independent thinking is allowed thereafter. Then, all their thinking is done for them. The Watchtower Society at one time banned vaccinations, organ transplants, blood fractions and later okayed for their members without any apology for those that suffered and died needlessly. Could the Watchtower okay blood transfusion also some day? The threat of disfellowshipping, expelling, shunning (required of members even toward their own blood relatives) holds their members abusively from using and stating any free thought.

  Check: "jwfacts.com", "freeminds.org" and "ajwrb.org."

  ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
  Listen to WTS VP Fred Franz in 1975 about "1975" at:
  http://youtube.com/v/oaXbBVVoeEQ This is a fact, spoken at convention by their Vice President then, of which, is denied by the leadership (Governing Body in New York, now consisting of 9 members). The Watchtower ploy of false prophecy is dominant throughout its history.

  The Watchtower organization needs much exposure on hurting its members. Also, it has a track record of getting funds from its foreign members, which at some point much goes to the U. S. headquarters, where there is multi-million dollar buildings in New York.

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  Long time reader.....first time poster

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, my wife and i are currently associated with jw's.

  my mom converted when i was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted.

  about 4 years ago however, my wife and i have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion.

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  Gayle

  You owe your children first, to have your unconditional love, to have a free mind, relative free spirit with normal guidelines, fun, music, arts, education, including the goal of college, etc.

  Your wife will have to make that decision someday. Perhaps, she can 'gradually' let her mom know her true feelings and thoughts. Sometimes, the older or aging parent will be very sensitive, taking any criticism about the WTS as a criticism toward them personally. So hopefully your wife can separate her WT critcism and reinforce her mom with appreciation for all the otherwise good things in her childhood. Your wife's mom will have to respect your wife and if she cannot or does not, then your wife will have to do all she can first to ensure the respect of her daughter.

  The next 13 yrs will go by fast for your daughter and you. I understand your dilemma fully. I, too, struggled with the delicate balance/imbalance of forthrightness and honesty leaving the JW world. However, for my 5 children, I finally accepted, that I must move on at all cost for my kids. I have raised my 5 children free of the Watchtower, though they have some memories while small. They have all graduated college and appreciate their freedom and me and they know my story well.
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  Michael Jackson - Teenage Superstar Jehovah's Witness!!?...that's what killed him!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  imagine being a teenage superstar....and a jehovah's witness???

  poor guy must have suffered a worst mind f#ck then any of us.

  teenage girls worshiped him, but i doubt he ever had one.

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  Gayle

  A double- whammy!!

  http://blog.beliefnet.com/pontifications/2009/06/michael-jacksons-faith.html

  This article shows some thoughts of Michael. Both parents were responsible for their dysfunction. An abusive father was horrible. Next to that the mother could only offer, the JW religion, which seemed to offer him a "day off" from their harsh-driven father. He was then driven to "pioneer" in costume. And then, in time, his two crazy worlds collided for him.

  I am glad he found Paradise with his children.
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  Michael Jackson is Dead!

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone else posted on another forum they heard on the radio michael jackson is dead.

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  Gayle

  L.A. Times confirmed