After being a JW, I never want to 'know it all' ever again!!
Posts by Gayle
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Anyone else in "limbo?"
by KitchenWitDinah ini've been out of the organization for about 4 years now, but have been in limbo since i've left.
the more i learn about world religions, the less apt i am to accept anything as truth, since there are so many similarities between so many religions.
i know many cultures have flood myths involving 40-ish days and 8 survivors (the chinese written language has many surprising allusions to biblical stories).
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JWs in the UK: 27 years of yearbook stats and stagnation
by 88JM inokay, so i went on a bit of a statistics binge after looking at poland.
i thought i would have a look at my home country's yearbook stats here in the uk (britain).. so here they are for your consideration.
had to go into the loft for some of the older yearbooks, and found some other older publications too.. nothing too remarkable as such here, as far as i can see, apart from:.
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Gayle
2010 - Britain
60,237,357 - pop.
134.339 - peak pub
448 - ratio
129,230 av. pub
1 increase
128,435 - 2009 av. pubs
2,611 bapt
3976 aux.pio
9828 pio.
1533 congs.
21,124,483 hrs.
55499 b.s.
222795 memorial
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2013 Countdown of WT Brooklyn Properties
by Gayle in169 columbia heights.
161 columbia heights.
165 columbia heights.
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Gayle
This may be a "group" effort, I hope.
At one point I read the WT still had Brooklyn 34 properties to sell yet but not sure which properties that included. Some addresses I found, not sure if some of them were add-ons to already WT owned properties, or merged addresses.
My main info source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Bible_and_Tract_Society_of_Pennsylvania#Brooklyn_property_sales
I welcome corrections and additions for certain. Also, if any of you want to take this and improve as we watch properties as they sell these next couple of years, that would be fine by me. I just would like to be able to keep up easily as all this transpires.
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Sold:
Bought
Sold
Sold Amount
98 Montague
1983
2012
$81,000,000
34 Orange St
1945
2012
$2,825,000
169 Columbia Heights
1981
2007
$50,000,000
67 Livingston
1989
$18,600,000
89 Hicks
2006
$14,000,000
161 Columbia Heights
1988
2012
$3,000,000
165 Columbia Heights
2012
$4,100,000
183 Columbia Heights
1986
2012
$6,600,000
360 Furman St
1983
2004
$205,000,000
105 Willow
2012
$3,300,000
50 Orange
1988
2011
$7,100,000
67 Remsen
2012
$3,250,000
Up For Sale:
173 Front St
177 Front St
200 Water St
Other Properties:
124 Columbia Heights
107 Columbia Heights
119 Columbia Heights
129 Columbia Heights -?
117 Adams
Squibb Building -
79-99 Willow ST (Towers Hotel)
97 Columbia Heights
175 Pearl St
90 Sands St
1986
25 Columbia Heights
1978
108 Joralemon St
1988
107 Willow St
126 Columbia Heights - ?
77 Sands
18 Concord St - ?
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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!
by ekruks inlike many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
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Gayle
The WTS leadership/GB and their unquestioning members will never say they are sorry,,they only blame "others" who said this or that. Bottomline, it is us who 'pay the price.' We can only spare the rest of our lives, and hopefully be a part to help others investigating to spare their life from the empty promises of the WTS.
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WABC: Jehovah's Witnesses leave Brooklyn and sell 34 buildings
by Gorbatchov injehovah's witnesses to sell buildings, move upstatenew york (wabc) -- in the next few years, brooklyn could see one of the largest turnovers in real estate, all thanks to one seller.
the jehovah's witnesses are planning to sell all 34 of its buildings as they move their operations upstate.. .
the scope of the church's holdings is massive, 3.2 million square feet, more than the empire state building.
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Gayle
Is anyone keeping a running record of the specific 34 properties in Brooklyn and which have sold already and which are presently up on market for sale?
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It all is begging to crumble
by lostinthought ini've been mentally out for about two years now.
i am in my 30s and i don't live at home, am not married or anything like that.
i was visiting my mom this past week, i tell you the women has a 6th sense if she weren't a jw shed be a psychic.
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Gayle
Don't go in to a judicial committee meeting. They have no authority over you and in reality aren't going to help you in any way. I am sad to hear of you dealing with this in your life. Bottomline, it is up to your mom to talk with you and be a support to you. Some who have left JWdom are finding their parents and family are still talking with them, though they just don't let anyone know in the congregation. However, there are those whose JW family will not talk with them at all and that is so disgraceful.
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On the Eve of 2013, Predictions
by breakfast of champions innot predictions for 2013 per se, but a couple i could see happening in the not-too-distant future:.
the society takes the hundred year anniversary of 1914 head-on with more spin and disinformation.
already laid the groundwork with the "100 years ago" feature in the new yearbook.
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Gayle
More Branches lopped. More Brooklyn properties to be sold. Continued declined of baptisms in 1st world countries. Lesser increases in other countries. 30-Hr. Aux Pio. for 'every' month. Less 'house to house' witnessing, more 'computer to computer' witnessing. Increased partakers.
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WTS closes/dissolves 435 congregations in 29 countries
by Gayle inas listed in 2013 yearbook.. yes, most countries have increases in congregations.
most of the countries that have less congregations than last year, show 1 or 2 less.
however, poland shows a dramatic 327 congregations less, from 1,814 (2011) to 1,487. netherlands, 25 less congregations.
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Gayle
As listed in 2013 Yearbook.
Yes, most countries have increases in congregations.
Most of the countries that have less congregations than last year, show 1 or 2 less. However, Poland shows a dramatic 327 congregations less, from 1,814 (2011) to 1,487. Netherlands, 25 less congregations. Japan 23 less. Cameroon, 7 less; Denmark, 7 less; Guadeloupe, 5 less; Italy, 5 less; Sweden, 5 less; Korea, 6 less.
Those 2 less: Jamaica, Luxemburg, Portugal, Slovakia, Switzerland.
Those with 1 less: Albania, Austria, Bosnia, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech, Estonia, Iceland, Ireland, Lebanon, Madeira, Martinique, Mynamar, Turkey, and Uruguay.
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Central America Pubs. Increase 4% despite Branch Closings
by Gayle ini thought the branch closings in central america would impact their stats.
though i do see collectively that their baptisms were down 16% from last year and memorial attendance down a little (-1.5%).. now, new zealand shows negative stats across the board; less pubs., less baptized, less mem.
attendance.
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Gayle
I thought the Branch closings in Central America would impact their stats. Though I do see collectively that their baptisms were down 16% from last year and Memorial attendance down a little (-1.5%).
Now, New Zealand shows negative stats across the board; less pubs., less baptized, less Mem. Attendance. May not be clear what caused what there?
Are there any news/rumors about other branches closing?
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FLDS preparing for the "end of times"
by Anony Mous inwhich they believe will be here before 2013. authorities are concerned that jeff warren is planning "something dire" from his prison cell.. flds stores have shut down, believers do not want to talk to reporters.. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=23541460.
where have we seen that before?
anyone want to speculate on when the wtbts is going to plan something similar?.
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Gayle
There will always be "end-timers." To me, it indicates those that hate their lives, a miserable person or group.