Posts by Gayle
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Unbaptised son maybe asked to be in assembly ... Suggestions please!
by 4thgen inmy husband and i are divorced.
i have custody of my tween son.
i left 3 years ago on principle.
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Gayle
Maybe if he starts wearing suits pants just a little "tight"/fitted they won't want to use him in any parts?. Hmmmmmm. -
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Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!
by The Searcher ininformation just passed to me.
let's hope this becomes even more widespread.
i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?
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Gayle
makes me wonder with all the reversals, deletions, etc. if the day will come when there will again only be 3 elders of sorts per cong. like the old days, congregation servant, assistant cong. servant, & secretary/treasurer servant (maybe different titles tho). ??? -
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Bethel layoff question
by CookieMonster inhi,.
with the layoffs of bethelites and special pioneers, does anyone know if they get some sort of "redundancy" payout?
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Gayle
The Bethelites would have to re,-apply with no "bad attitude," otherwise won't get to reg. Pio. either. So if they go out of bethel or spec. Pio. complaining, then no reg. Pio, elder position, etc.
I think that clip of interviewing former D.O.s on JW.org -- they spoke well of their readjustment, because they know how that works.
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About 'Regular' Pioneers
by Gayle innow that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.
who would have ever thought?.
yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?
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Gayle
I suspect most dismissed Bethelites will not take up Reg. Pio., or not for long anyway. Unless they have family or someone helping. But the reality of working in the 'real' world and seeing how easily and quickly the org. can dismiss them and devalue them will hit hard. -
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About 'Regular' Pioneers
by Gayle innow that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.
who would have ever thought?.
yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?
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Gayle
Now that District Overseers have been deleted, now that Bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, Now that Special Pioneers are being deleted in U.S., and maybe elsewhere gradually. Who would have ever thought?
Yet, now what is the value to be a Regular Pioneer to the org? Yes, the org. doesn't have to pay anything for them. I suppose they create some extra hype in congregations and some may get others to go in service more. So what! In the U.S., on the average of baptisms to RPs it takes 4.4 full-time RPs to 1 baptism per year (160,273/36,064). According to some reports, about half baptized are JW kids, therefore, it may take 8 or 9 regular pioneers on avg. to bring in one baptized. No doubt, many to most are just pubs. that have snagged someone some other way to get baptized.
Really, what is their value to the org? Do RPs donate financially much to the org? I expect most don't donate much.
Does the org. need them?
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Where are you from?
by BeautifulMind ini know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.
but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.
i currently live in georgia, usa.
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Gayle
Phoenix, AZ,
I have been out for about 30 yrs. but could only be open or public about for 20 yrs.
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2015--10/19-and10/29-BOEs!
by Atlantis indisregard if already posted.. .. 2015, 10/19/boe.
.. click the green download button.. re: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015 .
http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/vistoa4.
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Gayle
Comical, how the letter states Britain had an increase in reg. pio. in Sept. Then, state also, that Ireland had 791 reg. pio. I checked Ireland's 2014 Service Report, stating last year had 847, that's a near 7% decrease. Funny example, how they play their statistics./ -
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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Gayle
I suspect many, to possibly half, some very aging mothers are contacting their DF'd grown children secretly. They cannot accept in their heart that their child is 'that' bad, or that someone in the congregation really stumbled them, or that their father was too harsh, etc. I remember hearing some aging mothers admitting that.
There has been a teeter-tottering of that for many. Many struggling in their personal lives on that. For some grandmas, it was the only way for them to get to see their grandchildren. To deny most aging women her children and grandchildren, will leave her a very embittered finale of her life. ( some are hard-nosed, by their nature anyway.)
Since the organization is an aging group, 2/3 of their youth leaving, and since most of the aging, are female who become depressed and bitter they create their own 'doom.'
Grandma Gayle
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Something interesting!
by John Aquila ini was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
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Gayle
I am in Phoenix. There were a couple 'Meetup' groups for awhile but have closed. Mostly, just a stepping stone for ones leaving and moving on. Meeting people face to face was great! Some came and refused to even hardly talk and would only give an alias name. Next meeting or two, they would be talking freely. Some were disfellowshipped and broken, but a few meetups later were joyful as can be. Sometimes, there were about 20 there but mostly smaller groups 4-8.
There was no type of direction or agenda that anyone should believe one way another. Just a 'free expression' type discussion, encouraging others, everyone different yet the strong identification of where we had been and efforts of moving on.
Though, a couple years ago one 'young' couple stated they were also meeting with another group. It was 'Bible Students' a type of from Russell, on the east side of Phoenix valley. I didn't get specifics at that time because I live far from there. Also, maybe I don't know their purpose or concept but I never was drawn to reading the 'Studies of the Scriptures' - too extensively detailed for me. Plus, other things that, to me, just add too many unnecessary explanations. For me, the simple things are the better.
If older ones are having contact with others, that they would understand their plight. Internet may not be comfortable for them. Understandably, having face to face contact with ones you know or have similar ages and similar issues, would be great for them. Hopefully, they are adjusting in their way, possibly slower, or to a certain degree of issues. Whatever works is great. I would qualify age-wise but I do like the Internet.
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Hello everyone! I am new here and want to tell you about myself - my bio
by Hollywood20 ingrew up in east la in a bad neighborhood to a black mother and white father.
i never knew my father because he died in a car accident when i was a few weeks old.
my mother converted as a jw soon after when two sisters came to her door and offered her comfort, which was something she needed.
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Gayle
Any way, you could check again with the agency or another one? You have to pursue what you love and especially you have a strong gift. You are young yet. The WT org will eat you alive, your spirit and soul. Be prepared to have to leave your mom to her choices. You obviously love her. But you must love yourself too.
I am a grandma now, have 5 grown children, all put themselves through college. I am glad they have freedom of their mind and heart and have fulfilling lives. Moms cannot ask for anything more.