Posts by seatrout

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For UK folk; did anyone here attend Southport KH?

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hi, .

i'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above kingdom hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).. seatrout .

seatrout

Hi still a JWexelder,

I was looking for information about the Wainwright family but it doesn't matter now (see my latest post history).

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For UK folk; did anyone here attend Southport KH?

by seatrout in

hi, .

i'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above kingdom hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).. seatrout .

seatrout

hi stillajwex-elder,

how do you know all of this if you are 5000 miles away????

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For UK folk; did anyone here attend Southport KH?

by seatrout in

hi, .

i'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above kingdom hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).. seatrout .

seatrout

Hi Still an EX JW elder,

I did say Southport UK!!!

Thanks for your time and effort but looking at your flag you're looking on the wrong side of the Atlantic!

Seatrout.

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For UK folk; did anyone here attend Southport KH?

by seatrout in

hi, .

i'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above kingdom hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).. seatrout .

seatrout

Hi Crumpet,

Glad to hear that my home town gave you some happy memories!

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What is your experience when a JW causes a potential convert to leave?

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i am not a jw but the person who i care about is.

i'll explain why i do not know myself.

i once was on the verge of becoming a jw myself and knew the jw i wanted to be with very well.

seatrout

Hi there,

I am attempting to get whatever insight I can for someone I care about. I am not a JW but the person who I care about is.

I'll explain why I do not know myself. I once was on the verge of becoming a JW myself and knew the JW I wanted to be with very well. I decided to break the news myself by making a telephone call. After making this contact it was made clear to me that she did not want any further contact. However, she did not get a chance to be told that I was being shepherded by a Pioneer, that I had attended meetings and I also did not speak to her direct (I spoke to one of her parents) and I hung up before I got a final answer (out of shock from what I heard). I never went back.

Since I now know that JW's are encouraged to report on each others behaviour, and this situation was witnessed by another JW, would she or would she not have been disciplined for this? if so, how serious an incident would this be and what would be the likely penalty/penalties be?

I am interested in hearing anyone experience, which can shed any light as to what happens in scenarios behind closed doors which are similar to this one. Any insight given will help the healing process.

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For UK folk; did anyone here attend Southport KH?

by seatrout in

hi, .

i'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above kingdom hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).. seatrout .

seatrout

Hi,

I'm probing for folk who used to regularly attend the above Kingdom Hall (especially if you attended during the late ninties/start of the millenia).

Seatrout

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Does anything happen to a JW if they cause an unbaptised convert to leave?

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does anyone have congregational experience of an aftermath such as the above?

i once fell deeply in love with a jw (and vice versa) and the week before i was due to leave work some dubs came around to my home on my offday to convert me.

however, i refused to go since we had a serious fallout prior to them turning up.. a few months later i then entered the congregation to try to salvage the relationship, and went to two meetings, but i didn't declare to other jw's there that it was for an emotional need that i had turned up with the hope of being with her.

seatrout

Does anyone have congregational experience of an aftermath such as the above?

I once fell deeply in love with a JW (and vice versa) and the week before I was due to leave work some dubs came around to my home on my offday to convert me. however, I refused to go since we had a serious fallout prior to them turning up.

A few months later I then entered the congregation to try to salvage the relationship, and went to two meetings, but I didn't declare to other JW's there that it was for an emotional need that I had turned up with the hope of being with her. She wasn't there on both occasions so I made a telephone call to declare the 'good news' to her. Her mother answered, but before she had the chance to tell her daughter that I was converted she made it vehemently plain that she didn't want to speak to me and that she wanted rid. Out of shock I instantly put the phone down and never went to another meeting. The point is this incident caused me to leave for good.

So my question is this; does anything happen to a JW if they cause an unbaptised convert to leave? What would the elders have done to her (if they were required to do anything at all)?

Many years have passed since this incident and ealier in the year I employed someone to find out if she was willing to make contact with me. I was told that she was. I have since been sending letters to her via this third party and since my first approach I have a dub knocking on doors on my village. I know alot more about the Watchtower now and I am never going back, but I am really concerned for her. Which is more likely, that she is acting out of genuine compassion/remorse or because she has been heavily repremanded in the past?

Any advice and inside experience greatly welcome (especially from former elders). SEATROUT.

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When you left......

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what was your first indulgence?

mine is watching all those r-rated movies i missed out on.

man, i'm loving it!

seatrout

I need some inside defector info relating to the above scenario. If anyone has any experience of the above, it would be much appreciated (former Elders especially so)?

I once fell deeply in love with a JW (and vice versa). Before I left work some dubs came to my house to convert me. However, I refused to go in the end since we had a very serious fallout a few weeks beforehand (the details I'll spare since the cause of the row was very convoluted).

A couple of months later I entered her congregation in the hope of trying to salvage the relationship. However, she wasn't there on both occasions and so I phoned her up to tell her of 'the good news of my conversion'. Her mother answered and told her who it was and I heard her in background that she did not want to speak to me and she wanted rid. If my memory is still good and true I don't think her mother had time to tell her that I had come into the faith before I hung up. The point is that this incident caused me to leave for good.

My question is this: Would the Elders have disciplined her or would the whole incident have been blissfully ignored? If they (the Elders) were required to do anything what would they have likely done?

Many years have passed since then. After employing a company earlier in the year to run a trace I was told that she would to respond if sent in my address details. So far nothing, (except for a couple of occasions where people who look and act suspiciously like dubs walking around my village).

Advice and experience welcome.

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The Watchtower Dec 2005 Literature appeal

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does anyone have a spare copy/photocopy of the december 2005 watchtower edition?

i need to see this for my own research.. also, if any one has any literature which points out the society's belief that at this moment in time we are right on the verge of the great tribulation, then i also need to see this belief in print.. can anyone help?

if anyone can i will provide postage details where they can be sent.. seatrout.

seatrout

The Dec 2005 Watchtower edition has been quoted as saying that non-Witnesses are pests that must be exterminated, or words to that effect. i.e I need the chapter/topic where this this quote has originated from, to make sure that it hasn't been mis-read or mis-quoted. If it has been accurately quoted, then this is hardly a view that should be taken by a Society that claims it is here to save people.

Are you prepared to send it to the UK?

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The Watchtower Dec 2005 Literature appeal

by seatrout in

does anyone have a spare copy/photocopy of the december 2005 watchtower edition?

i need to see this for my own research.. also, if any one has any literature which points out the society's belief that at this moment in time we are right on the verge of the great tribulation, then i also need to see this belief in print.. can anyone help?

if anyone can i will provide postage details where they can be sent.. seatrout.

seatrout

Does anyone have a spare copy/photocopy of the December 2005 Watchtower edition? I need to see this for my own research.

Also, if any one has any literature which points out the Society's belief that at this moment in time we are right on the verge of the Great Tribulation, then I also need to see this belief in print.

Can anyone help? If anyone can I will provide postage details where they can be sent.

Seatrout