people being destroyed at the big a. i told him how tramatic it was for me that i was told basically just everyone would die around me would die... that the days would be just as in noah's day and in the "my book of bible stories" there was even a baby would die and that my mom said that even babies would die at a because jehovah new that they would grow up to be just like there parents... i told him that the society said this also and this is probably where my mom got it from.... he said, "i don't care what the society says, jehovah is loving and our loving god will judge us the way that he wants and not the societys way.
then he just held me and said to pretend i was that little 6 year old and he said, "now, your mom is telling you that jehovah loves everyone and will save everyone he can, just not really evil people... he loves you and everybody very, very much...".
i fell asleep last night for the very first time knowing that somebody i love and that's close to me was on my side with this issue and against the society on this... it just took yet another huge weight off me... .
Cognac,
As long as you have this loving relationship with your husband and both of you with God, things will work out.
Even though he is still a JW and is working toward greater responsibility in the WT, you can be assured that
everything is going to work out for your good. This is God's promise at Romans 8:28.
Love and hugs,
Velta
hello i just started a new profile here but i have been wandering around here for awhile.i have seen many stories somewhat similar to what i have right now.
i have read many post from people here and they have been somewhat helpful ,but now i need help with a little of my own problem.
for future refrences i apologize if my story isnt as descriptive as i want it to be but please read until the very end.. well for starters i am 16, yes i am young and have my entire life ahead of me to enjoy but idk if i can fully enjoy it but please just listen to my story.
Dear xig28,
You sound like a totally awesome young man. Thinking about her happiness is really quite
unlike most of the young men I have met. My granddaughter's are really wonderful girls, but their
boy friends seem quite self-centered. I could be wrong.
I remember being 16 and totally in love. At that age you really think that you cannot love anyone else
but the one that you are with. But I fell in love with several young men and felt the same way about each one.
I am not saying that you are not truly in love with this girl, but at your age it is very hard to know. Please
don't think that I am putting you down!! This is totally not my intention. Stop and think about the implications
of discrediting her religion in her eyes. What if she
sees the facts that Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong. At her age, what could she do? She still has
to live with her parents and they are providing her with the things she needs right now. If she tells
them that she does not believe that the Watchtower is right, and the elders find out that she feels this
way they will disfellowship her. This will put a big strain on her relationship with her parents.
If you really love her and are willing to wait for her until she is 18 and you are able to support her,
then would be the time to help her see what is wrong with the Watchtower. She will not be harmed by waiting.
My advice (and it is just that) is just spend time with her, build your friendship and continue as
you have been. Getting to know one another is really the basis of a good relationship. Find out what you
have in common, what your mutual interests are. Don't be afraid. Most young people put on a facade to please
their girlfriend/boyfriend and when they decide to get into a serious relationship/married they find out that the
other person is a total stranger.
I will be praying that you keep your relationship as friends until you both are old enough to
take total responsibility for your lives. You both have a lot to lose if your disrupt your relationship
with your families. Doing things the right way will earn you her respect.
I can see your heart is in the right place, I will be praying that God will show you what the right
thing to do is.
Love and hugs,
Gramma Velta
finally, i will look at biblical and patristic evidence bearing on the crucifixion of jesus in particular.
we need to examine the earliest known descriptions of the kind of crucifixion adopted by the romans and the specific terms they used to refer to it.
apparently the society believes that crux still meant "stake" in the second century a.d., when tacitus composed his annals.
Leolaia,
WOW!!! I am so impressed with all the time and energy that you put into the research for this
article. I have done a lot of research for my own personal benefit and I know it can take many
hours. I copied and printed this out for my husband to read. He is not a computer person.
I copied into Word and narrowed the margins, filled in the gaps, enlarged the print a bit because
his eyes are not that great. (he is 81). It printed out to 48 pages. I think you asked how many in an
earlier post.
Thank you so much for this. It is the best research I have seen on all aspects of the cross.
Love and hugs,
Velta
my daughter shannon is 20 weeks pregnant.
the placenta is pulling loose and she has some bleeding.
the doc seems confidant that both she and the baby will be fine.she found out this week that it is a boy.
A&W,
So happy to hear that your daughter and baby are doing well. It is scary when things like
this happen. May God bless them and you.
Love and hugs,
Velta
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
freetosee,
I have been out a long time too, but I believe from what I have heard, that it really depends on the parents. I think
some would feel free to go (if it was not going to get back to the congregation) and others would feel it would be
against Jehovah.
As far as I know JWs are still not to associate with disfellowshipped relatives. My son sent me excerpts from the 1980 WT when I
asked him if it had changed and that definitely says "NO".
Love and hugs,
Velta
for some time now, my wife and i have met various people on jwd and we've developped close friendships with many of them over the years.
we have family members who post on here as well.
believe me, i wouldn't lose these relationships for the world.
As Lady Lee said, I think that you get a feel for people on this board and you kind of get to know
who you can trust with your feelings. I would suggest that you PM them and vent. I would feel them
out on a personal basis for a while before I really opened up, but I know we all need someone to share
our deep feelings with.
Love and hugs,
Velta
http://www.kneelb4me.com/2008/1/31/jehovahs-witnesses--the-people-who-wake-you-up-on-a-saturday-morning.
this is a joke right?.
Doesn't sound like a JW interview to me. It just doesn't ring true to their way of answering.
At least I know this is not how the JWs believe:
Do you believe the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the death of Christ, and the Second Coming? Yes
They do not believe that Jesus was "physically" resurrected. They say he was resurrected in the spirit.
Love and hugs,
Velta
http://www.kiro710.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=91.
friday, february 15, 2008 @ 3:53pmobama campaign theatrics.
--producer phil writes.
Maybe it is the "bobby-soxer" syndrome. A lot of young girls used to "swoon" over
Frank Sinatra in the 40s. I saw it happen. Didn't happen to me because Jehovah didn't want me to honor men. hee hee
Seems like it is young girls that are fainting.
Love and hugs,
Velta
we are all afraid of death, well most of us i should say.
that fear explains a lot of our behaviour, and with that in mind we could cut each other a little slack.
take those on the forum who come here to defend either the witnesses or their belief in god.
Slim: A very good post with a lot of insight. I agree that fear makes for angry rebuttals if our belief is not sure, if it is based on what we have been told and not what we have found out for ourselves. I know that when I was a Wtiness very often if the person I was talking to was familiar with their Bible, I would be frustrated that they could not see "the truth". I think that even though it doesn't change us at the time, that these people were part of the journey out of the WT. You have a very balanced view.
I feel like Mouthy does to a degree. I am not afraid to die, and when it happens I will find out if my hope has been realized or I will find out nothing. In the meantime, I do have hope and that sustains me and brings me joy and peace.
TD said: I'm not sure if the hope envy premise accounts for the fact that many people have suffered real, lasting injury at the hands of this religion and it's adherents.
I believe that what you are saying is true to a great extent. Many people have been hurt by religion. So many people equate Christianity with religion. They are not necessarily the same. We left the church this summer because we felt that we were being led by men and not the Holy Spirit in their services. We choose to worship God as Lord every minute of every day and not just at certain times.
nj said: need to constantly tell me to find jesus and where to find him or anyone who insists on being my judge and jury. I actually feel sorry for them that they can't simply live their life, be happy and stop trying to save the world with god, jesus and the bible.
nj I have a problem with this kind of people also. Even though I am a strong believer, I do not think anyone should push their belief on anyone else. I hope that no one feels that I have done this in my posts. It totally goes against my grain.
I hope that we can all discuss our beliefs and learn from one another with an open mind. I know that I try to do this. I totally respect all of you.
Love and hugs,
Velta
Thanks Dawg,
You are my Valentine!!! I almost didn't answer because I am not a hot lady, but I know you love me.
Love and hugs,
Gramma Velta
