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  Any updates on the SPY network at the I.R.S., F.B.I., and other agencies for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

  by Balaamsass in

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  2. scandals

  curious, with almost 25,000 members here.

  network of j.w.

  does anyone have any up to date info on the status of the volunteer "spies"?.

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  Paralipomenon

  Given the society's stance on education, I can't imagine too many are in the positon accept postions that would deal with sensitive data unless placed there by the organization. I know they have paid for education for some bethel members, but I doubt they are forward thinking enough to plant moles in government agencies.

  The only reason the WT holds people's minds is by keeping them busy and focused on what they teach. I can see a JW that hears gossip at work passing that along, but I doubt the WT trains and tries to get people government jobs to act as informants.
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  What was one of the most difficult Scripture for you to understand?

  by jam in

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  for me, 1 peter 4;6 "for this is why the gospel was.

  preached even to the dead, that though judged in.

  the flesh like men, they might live in the spirit like god.".

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  Mark 9:38-40

  Now John answered Him, saying, “Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.”

  But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is on ourside.

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  My question always was, how could witnesses claim to be the only source of true religion, when even Jesus didn't feel that way. I always struggled with the idea that the organization, as imperfect as it was, was better than all the people of the earth who followed the bible, but not the watchtower.
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  STEVE HASSAN coming to Cult Free Radio on November 19

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  2. friends

  you read that right.

  just finished talking to steve a half hour ago.. november 19 at 10pm est, steve hassan's interview will air on cult free radio on ustream.

  i will also have a co-host that evening to discuss bite mind control and steve's interview.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.

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  I mean, he's no Johnny the Bethelite, but I suppose he'll do.
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  What was the name of the WT's special printing machine?

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember on my visit to the bethel, one of the stops was this machine that allowed rapid production of layout in different languages.

  they were very proud of it, i guess it was invented by a poor volunteer there and it was enough of a breakthrough that they claimed that international companies were looking to buy or license the technology for millions.. the guide was very proud to say that they were keeping the technology and not sharing.

  tee hee hee, take that satan!.

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  Paralipomenon

  That's the one!

  Found a very interesting post from here about it!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/79508/1/MEPS-Multilanguage-Electronic-Phototypesetting-System-the-early-story

  And a creepy facebook page dedicated to it with 14 "likes":

  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Multilanguage-Electronic-Phototypesetting-System/124095127635143

  Thanks AGuest!
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  What was the name of the WT's special printing machine?

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember on my visit to the bethel, one of the stops was this machine that allowed rapid production of layout in different languages.

  they were very proud of it, i guess it was invented by a poor volunteer there and it was enough of a breakthrough that they claimed that international companies were looking to buy or license the technology for millions.. the guide was very proud to say that they were keeping the technology and not sharing.

  tee hee hee, take that satan!.

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  Paralipomenon

  I remember on my visit to the bethel, one of the stops was this machine that allowed rapid production of layout in different languages. They were very proud of it, I guess it was invented by a poor volunteer there and it was enough of a breakthrough that they claimed that international companies were looking to buy or license the technology for millions.

  The guide was very proud to say that they were keeping the technology and not sharing. Tee hee hee, take that satan!

  I wanted to see if anything came from it or if it eventually got outdone by computing software.

  Something in the back of my mind said it was called MIPS or similar. Anyone with a WT cd care to try to track it down or remember the name? I know they were bragging about it in a study article or yearbook because I was able to give a comment about it the meeting.
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  What is the spark that powers Evolution?

  by N.drew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have no idea, that is why i'm asking.

  i did mention on another thread that need might be involed, but they said no.

  so what powers evolution?

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  Paralipomenon

  Given the time scale that we have been able to document the living human body, both inside and out, there isn't enough information to give you an answer.

  What you are asking is like taking War and Peace, opening it up to a random page, showing a student a single letter on the page, then asking them to explain how it began and ended.

  Now to take this further. A priest, not knowing, would make up a story and assert that it must be right, where as a scientist would start to read the book to find out. Given enough time, who's account would you trust?

  As a species, we've just started reading the book of life. You can either start reading for yourself, or walk over to the fiction section and pick whatever sounds pretty to you. You can assert that it must be true because it has a beginning, an end, and a pretty cover.
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  6 Steps to Transparency: How to Avoid Disgruntled Ex-Members

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are a lot of them out there; disgruntled ex-jehovah's witnesses.. they spend their days making up outrageous claims about the watch tower society and the "faithful and discreet slave", spreading their poison on weblogs, social networks and internet chat forums.. helpfully, i've created a list of 6 simple steps that the governing body can impliment today to help avoid creating disgruntled ex-members.. read it on my weblog and discuss in this internet chat forum..

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  I think many would be calmer if they did away with shunning.

  It should be illegal for a religion to enforce membership based on association.
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  Is there a Jehovah's Witness gestalt?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a german word: gestalt which means that.......... something is more than the sum of its parts.. .

  a diamond seems to be an excellent example of this principle, doesn't it?.

  carbon (as in: carbon dioxide) is everywhere and it is "cheap".. but, diamonds are prized as very valuable and expensive.. a diamond, however, consists of almost entirely of : carbon.. .

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  Paralipomenon

  My biggest culture shock was talking to "worldly" people.

  As a born-in I was taught that the "world" is a wicked place, people may seem nice, but inside they lack the moral compass of a witness.

  After I got out, I was quite surprised to meet and interact with people that did acts of kindness, not because it was a good witness, or they might get mentioned from the platform, but because they were kind people.
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  Why on earth would WT use a FEMALE lawyer to defend it in Australia case?

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. current

  how many of us here find the use of a female to conduct the defence unusual?.

  the wt religion is notoriously misogynistic.

  anybody with a penis is preferable to do a non menial job.. why the change here?.

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  Question, does she have to wear a head covering if there's a baptised male in the courtroom?
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  I don't get OBVES - do you?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. experiences

  it appears that obves started a ton of threads 9 years ago here on jwd/jwn.

  all of them [that i have seen] filled with prophetic utterances regarding determining the end.

  over those years, all the dates have failed.

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  Paralipomenon

  He's been at it since at least 1996 that I know of, on the alt.religion.jehovahs-witnesses group on the usenet. He was slightly more "normal" then, more of a borderline appologist than anything. As Usenet popularity dropped he seemed to nestle in here for a receptive audience.

  So long as people comment on his insanity, it seems he feels fulfilled.