when i die may i please have chocolate cake?.
chapter 1. my birth.
i have always thought of my life like that.
Spark--------
Haven't read it all yet [tired/ brain dead today]...but have read enough to know you have a real talent for story-telling/ expressions/ words. Respect. (Yeah, I know...I've watched a couple too many Ali G video clips...but I mean that. You're good.) Looking forward to the rest!
friends,.
treshappy contacted me today and let me know that the providence journal of rhode island reported that tonya fuller-balletta was aquitted because of insanity.
nothing has been reported about sentencing as of yet.. http://www.projo.com/news/content/fuller_balletta_26_05-27-07_1f5pql3.2677286.html.
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No words can begin to say it.............
am a newbie here so please excuse any lack of decorum, just need to vent to people that understand.. a quick rundown: dad was an elder since i was about 3, and from the time i was 5 i wondered why he was so nice to everyone else and an arsehole to his family.
dad remained an elder until 'deposed' when i was 13, after which my 17 yr old sister 'lost faith' (although, knowing her, it happened a lot sooner).
sis left home, i got seriously depressed and tried to kill myself, after which nothing was ever the same with either my family or the 'truth' (the 'lie' is more like it).
Wow!! That's a lot to be dealing with, and something I think many of the posters here can relate to... Welcome to the forum--it's a great place and a great start for healing!!
i was talking to my trying-to-exit-the-cult fraternal twin brother yesterday about life, the jehovah's witness cult, and our jw parents.. he repeated, calmly and succintly, that he hates our parents.
i could not argue with him.
i used to, being a parent myself.
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Venting's fine--it's what we're here for.
something i've noticed when reading the various threads on this site, is that so many people seem to be afraid.
their scared of being disfellowshipped, scared of being shunned, scared of not being accepted by the congregation, scared that people may find out they don't believe anymore, scared if anyone was to find out they use this site.
there is advice for people on how to avoid being disfellowshipped, if they may have "said too much" about their thoughts, or how to fade without being noticed.. i don't understand this.
Why not just tell them you're leaving and they're not to come to your house, and you don't care about their punishments?
What does it matter if a made up religion gives you a made up label of DF'd........it's not real! To me it's like my little boy telling me I can't be in his gang anymore; it's just something to laugh at the childishness, and it makes no difference to my life.
Adolfius----it makes no difference to your life...and here is where you are very forunate!! I'm happy for you in that regard--I don't wish the devastating social/ emotional/ psychological/ physical/ financial consequences that JW family and congregational shunning or simply ostracism can have--and DOES HAVE--on so many lives.
I'm glad you're in ignorance of potential consequences...it's shows that your own circumstances are relatively 'safe'--and that's the way I'd rather see it. Read more of the posters' experiences/ stories here. You'll get more than you bargained for of answers that way, even while it's coming in piecemeal.
It's an education--I'll tell you that. One you don't want to have to acquire the hard way.
hi everyone, the guy i'm currently dating suffers from social phobia and it's beginning to affect our relationship.
does anyone have any experience dealing with this?
i have to admit this is all new to me, most of the guys i've dated are pretty normal, but this one seems to need some extra care.
Hi Everyone, the guy I'm currently dating suffers from Social Phobia and it's beginning to affect our relationship. Does anyone have any experience dealing with this?
Yes (edit to add: my ex-husband)...and it only gets worse when left untreated. It is by no means a quick fix, and adding the JW element seriously intensifies the problem--for the sufferer as well as for anyone in close relationship to him.
trying to get topic page started (keep getting 'error page' instead)...hopefully letter will show in next post....
bttt
so, as many of you know, i wrote a letter three months ago and told my family the goods about this cult... i think i was kind enough yet firm enought to get my point across-let's hope so as i'm not exactly ernest hemmingway when it comes to writing.
here's the best part to come of it.
not one of my letters was ever given to the elders; apparently i'm not going to be disfellowshipped for apostacy-which honestly i could give a big rat's ass less about that one, and best of all, the letter has made it even to people that i didn't even send it to which means it's being passed around.
For all of you thinking of doing the same; freaking do it, it is the most liberating expierence I've ever done-honestly if feels great to show that I have power over the fools that destroyed much of my life. Also, expect being called every name in the book and remember when this happens, it's a natural reaction from anyone who just got the bejesus scared out of them. Believe me, it scares the hell out of them, so realize that, be nice to whatever replies you may get and never, and I mean never back down from your prinicples. Remember you are right and they are wrong plain and simple!
Thanks, dawg, for saying this.
This speaks to the dilemma I am dealing with, too--though the letter I want to send is about the sexual abuse by my JW ex-husband (of his two sisters and then of me).... I am closer and closer every day to following through and just sending it. Although, since in this case, it's not doctrinal--it's criminal--information to share, I am going to take the advice of many of the posters here and bring a copy to police for their advice/ first. But even that step for me is HUGE!! for me right now.
Your comments are helping me develop the steely determination I've needed... Thanks, dawg!!
i don't know how you feel but i am pleased to be part of a community that cares about fellow members.
although we may not know individuals in person, we get a "sense" of many of our fellow posters especially if we have been here for any length of time.. several of our fellow posters have experienced terrible tragedies that result in financial nightmares.
i don't know how all of you feel, but i would rather give directly to someone in need than through a charity.
yes, that is a real problem. Any time folks are generous with money, someone will come along to abuse the generosity. I think that for the most part we shouldn't do that except on an individual, on-to-one basis. You can pm someone you'd like to help, to get some contact info. Much better that way - and it is easy.
I agree with pretty much all that's said here...only thing is, some people have a hard time accepting help, even when sincerely offered. Asking them to agree to participate in arranging to receive the help may be aking something that is much harder for some people to do than you might think.... It is all very wonderful and considerate of everyone to consider...just be aware that some people need help with knowing it's okay to receive help (especially financially) AS WELL AS the financial help that you are offering. Helping someone with that might be even the bigger challenge to figure out than the logistics of the exchange itself. Creativity is a good thing...so good luck with figuring it all out!
why let the theists and atheists have all the fun?
agnostics, let your voice be heard!
uncertainty for the masses!
Uncertainty for the masses!
ROFL !!
