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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

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  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  Sirona -

  You wrote:

  I have to say something here because it is something which has been getting on my nerves on this forum. People appear to assume that if you are not an atheist then you are a Christian. I realise you said "spiritual path" but I expect you mean a follower of the bible? The thing is, there are those of us out here who follow a spiritual path but who are not bible believers and who don't have any issues with homosexuality.

  Please be careful to not lump everyone into this camp. I personally do not belive there are 2 classes of people, atheists and Christians. I recognize there are many beliefs and that is why I specifically used the term 'spiritual path'. While I do believe in an absolute truth, I do believe we should all have the freedom to worship freely. I'm certainly not the judge and it's not my job to make everyone else think the same way I do. I just appreciate the same respect in return.
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  Serotonin:

  You wrote:

  I'm not sure if you have contradicted yourself here. You say the animals had sin which could not be taken away, then you say sin is actually only man's problem. If you believe that animals have sin, can you explain how they came to have it unless God just made them that way? If sin means something that is wrong to God, why would he put it in them from the begining of their existence, with no hope or chance of changing it? Animals being gay seems to be the way they should be naturally in that case.

  This was an error in my writing. What I meant was that scripture DOESN'T state that the animals have an issue with sin. It was a little unclear.
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  Social Anxiety Disorders

  by Thinking of Leaving in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi everyone, the guy i'm currently dating suffers from social phobia and it's beginning to affect our relationship.

  does anyone have any experience dealing with this?

  i have to admit this is all new to me, most of the guys i've dated are pretty normal, but this one seems to need some extra care.

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  I know a few people with social anxiety and I personally suffer from anxiety myself, just a different form of it.

  Recommending a good cousellor is a start. They can give him exercises to do to help him face his fears. It all begins in the mind and can be rather crippling. What seems to happen is when certain thoughts are repeated, it will begin to effect the person physically as well as their life responses.

  You can be a good friend to him and walk with him as he goes through therapy. He is going to need you. Remember, his fears are REAL to him. It's quite humbling to have to see a mental health specialist but he really should see someone.

  Life is meant to be lived!!!

  A word of caution, try to stay away from meds if possible. For me personally, I figured I would have to renew my mind to be set free from myself and my thoughts. The meds can just be a crutch (although, there are many who NEED the meds because of brain chemistry imbalances) I'm just saying to try it without the meds first.

  Blessings to you on your journey.
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  Phone phobia overcome - now the price to be paid! Skype info?

  by Crumpet in

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  i have always been slightly uncomfortable using the phone, but over the last month i seemed to overcome it in a more general way.

  to financially bad effect.

  i just got my bill for one month and its horrendous.

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  We had Skype for a season. It worked kind of like a pre-pay phone. We deposited money online into our account and it was A LOT cheaper. I believe it was about 3 cents a minute.

  Now we have something called Packet 8. It works well and we can call anywhere in the USA and Canada for Free!!!
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  Little Rock Guy

  You said:

  "Do you consider homosexuality a condition or an act? Since I am gay, am I only a homosexual when I am having sexual relations with another man and "normal" when I am not? and if homosexuality is just a condition, like having a certain color of eyes or being born blind, and thus nothing I can do about it, even if I am celebate and do not commit fornication of any kind, is my mere existence as a homosexual a sin?"

  If you don't mind, I'd like to take a stab at this. As a heterosexual, am I a heterosexual just when I am having sex or is it a "condition"?

  I think most of us would agree that (as heterosexuals) we are heterosexuals regardless of whether or not we are actually HAVING sex. It's basically how we are programed. There is an attraction that distinguishes us as being gay or straight.

  No, according to the Bible (and I think this is the point that is being addressed here) even as a heterosexual, God says to keep the marriage bed pure. Most interpret this as remaining a virgin until marriage. If a heterosexual can choose to abstain because God sees this as a sin outside of marriage, then why can't the same apply to a homosexual person. Pardon me, but I am thinking about a person who is gay and chooses a Christian lifestyle. In this case, it's tough to have some self control for both the homosexual AND the heterosexual. It's no easy road.

  However, if the person (straight or gay) is not walking on a spiritual path, then why not live it up? There is no one higher to themselves that they are answering to themselves so why not just live their lives however they want to as long as 'they aren't hurting anyone else.'

  It really isn't up to the church to determine how everyone else should live their lives. I personally believe in Bible truths and it makes it hard when living in a world that is filled with a mentality that there are no moral absolutes.
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  "onlycurious, if you believe gays are not the way God designed us, and that it came about by the fall of man (I'm assuming you believe that) then can you explain how there are gay animals in the world, who did not sin against God?"

  Join the dots: While God did create the animals, I don't recall anywhere in scripture where God designed a plan for animals to obtain salvation from their sins. The sinful state of man is written as being mans problem, not the animal kingdoms.

  It's nothing you haven't heard before I'm sure, but when God created Adam and Eve, He didn't create "Adam and Steve".

  While the parts may 'fit', I've never heard of 2 men or 2 women procreating. This certainly isn't to assume in any way that sex is designed strictly FOR procreation. Also, scripture is quite clear. I didn't write the Book, I just read it.
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  As a Christian, I would have to answer this question in one way alone: "What have you done with Jesus?"

  I do believe homosexuality is a sin. However, sin is sin and nothing more than sin.

  I believe we all need Jesus. It's not the persons sexuality that separates him/her from entering into a relationship. It's whether or not the person believes that Jesus died for the sins of mankind and receives that covering of forgiveness.

  Ultimately, I have learned the hard way over the years. God is the One in control, not any ranting and raving of Christians shoving doctrine down people's throats. It's the love of God and His embrace that changes the hearts of each and every one of us. He knows the condition of our hearts, our weaknesses and so forth. So yes, while I don't believe homosexuality is the way God designed us, I certainly am not going to tell every gay person I meet that. It's not up to me to decide what a person does or doesn't do in the bedroom and me telling them that certainly isn't going to break down any barriers that the church has put up over the years.

  Does this make any sense?
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  Weird things relating to females at the KH

  by Tatiana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the news concerning the child abuse lawsuits, and from reading many comments concerning the wts' view of women, i started remembering lots of little things that were brought up at my kh in the many years i attended.

  i don't remember anything pertaining to the brothers.

  but, there were things brought up from the platform that just seem ridiculous.

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  My dub friend was at one of her meetings when they spoke about modesty. She happened to be wearing a skirt above the knees with black high boots and fishnets. She was embarrassed and stayed seated even though she had to pee really bad.
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  Isn't God Awesome?

  by Perry in

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  http://wonderofitall.com/

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  I personally enjoyed this and appreciate the beauty that God has created. Whether people wish to admit it now or not, there definately is someone MUCH greater than ourselves who created all of this for our enjoyment.
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  The Beachcomber

  by onlycurious in

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  for anyone who is interested:.

  my may newsletter is finally here.....(when do i even find the time to do this) .

  anywho....if you have a few moments you may want to check it out!

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  For anyone who is interested:

  My May newsletter is finally here.....(when do I even find the time to do this)

  Anywho....if you have a few moments you may want to check it out!