we know in war you need to confront the enemy ,penetrate all the barriers, and once you get inside you can confront them.the enemy has many layers .the wts has their main headquarters in new york.if new york goes down,the rest will follow.once you get to the headquarters,how many layers do you need to penetrate before can talk to these unreasonable men?
who would you need to confront?
we know the are well insulated for a reason.
Blondie is correct. All the GB members who are capable to move around and walk or are senile attend particular congregations. Garret Loesch was a member in my congregation for a while but then he transfered to another cong.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
i have always had a problem with this from the scriptures, i understand the old law and replacing the passover but those laws did not apply to the new covenant and my question centers around pauls words to the 1 cor 11.
1 cor 11:17-20 .
17but, while giving these instructions, i do not commend you because it is, not for the better, but for the worse that you meet together.18for first of all, when you come together in a congregation, i hear divisions exist among you; and in some measure i believe it.19for there must also be sects among you, that the persons approved may also become manifest among you.
Well, I think it's every year because again, it was supposed to replace the Jewish Passover. And it was mentioned that the Last Supper celebration's details were common knowledge back then so that's why Paul didn't go into details and since most of the first Christians were Jews, it is very likely they celebrated it every year on Nisan 14. In fact, it's said that the churches of the east (asia minor) did this and Polycarp is known to have followed in this tradition which he said he received from the Apostles or those who knew the apostles. He even went to Rome to talk to the "bishop" of rome because they didn't follow such tradition.
Just bcz Paul says "as often" doens't mean or imply it should be done every day or every week. bcz for that matter, then it'd be better to do it back to back, many times a day. I go with every year based on the Jewish calendar like Polycarp did.
P.S. What's wrong with you, Morocco? You always seem angry or rude in your posts? lol
justahuman - but super nonetheless
i am working with the 1999 wt cd and checking out what they actually have on the cd.
a few times they give the different years that a book was published.
most of us know the wt has edited their books to omit many of the changes they have made along the way.
Yep, like the belief that the Sodomites will not be resurrected. That's the current belief but Insight on the Scriptures says the opposite. justahuman - but super nonetheless
to those who don't take the bible as gospel truth, is there an explanation for the prophetic prediction of cyrus as the one that would help bring down babylon?
this is one thing thats been on mind that i havn't really had the time to research and i'd love to here some of your opinions.
even thoughs that accept the bible i wouldnt mind hearing what you say as i am open to any idea.
RunningMan: Much like all the rest of the Bible prophesies (except the ones that were downright wrong).
What prophecies were "downright wrong"? Examples, please!
justahuman - but super nonetheless
in considering the wts beliefs about the angels who came down and had sex with women, producing offspring i began to wonder.
this would mean that angels have the abilility to create a human life without god's help.
both by creating a human body and taking possesion of it and by then using that body to create offspring.. this whole business of materializing is suspicious.
It is hard to explain it because the Bible doesn't give lots of details and DNA is sooo complicated. The Bible says that the "sons of God" came down to earth and had intercourse with women. This would mean they materialized bodies. I don't think they were or had two natures. As angels, being very powerful and way smarter than humans, they could just easily materialize themselves, which they did. In fact, angels HAVE to materialize in order to be seen by humans. Those angels that were messengers of God and appeared to Abraham, Jacob and others materialized only for a short time. They even ate. Also, remember that the angel that conteded with Jacob had to be materialized in order for Jacob to see him and grapple with him. But the angel asked Jacob to let him go because it was almost morning. So, it maybe that angels have the ability to materialize for our benefit e.g. so we can see them, but that they're not supposed to stay in that form for long, possible so they don't fall into the temptation that the demons did e.g. wanting to breed with human women.
The nephilim weren't necessary giants. I'm sure some of them were or many of them. But they were also strong. Their differences didn't have to be physical. Also, the nephilim were hybrids because two different "natures" were breeding. And it could be that as a result of that, mutations were created in the offspring. The Bible doesn't say that the demons were the nephilim. The nephilim were the sons of angels and humans so it wasn't them that when the flood happened, went back to heaven. The nephilim died, all of them, when the Flood happened. It was the angels who de-materialized themselves - got rid of their human bodies - in order for them to go back to heaven.
It must've been some mutation that caused the nephilim to be giants or some of them but they were mostly known for their super-strength. Goliath was not a hybrid yet he was taller than "normal". So, it was also probably some mutationn in the DNA. It doesn't point to an evolutionary trait. Also, the Amalekites were big in stature.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
I really think it doesn't matter and on this I agree with the WTS. Because a lot people criticize the WTS for using Jehovah even though to some scholars it doesn't seem to be the "correct" name or use of consonants but no one objects to using Jesus as opposed to Yeoshuah.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
hello: an elder that i was discussing the 144,000 with asked for a reference for the # of true christians martyred during the first couple of centuries.
any suggestions?
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I should've turned it around and asked him to give you reference as to who many anointed ones lived and died faithful in the first century lol...
Besides, who in hell is going to know who was martyred or how many. Sure there are a few who became well-known and how they died but not all of them and I'm sure lots of people died as martyred than we may know of.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
i don't want to have this come across as bragging, but i have to explain this to ask this question.
okay, where i work is a call center and i do sales, along with customer service.
for the last five years, out of 2500 representatives online nationally, i have been number one in sales for all months and years.
I think . . . that you should get me a job so I can make as much as you do lol... I NEED MONEY!!!! :-P
Great for you! As long as you don't think too much of yourself, don't even give a second thought what other people think!
justahuman - but super nonetheless
the other day i was reading about moses and i came to the very popular part of the golden calf.
but now, with a little maturity and freedom from the clutches of witness thought i can see some terrible problems with the bible.
in the beginning of exodus 32 god is talking to moses and sees that the israelites have made a calf out of gold and they are using it as their god.
Morocco,
again, it wasn't Aaron's idea. THE PEOPLE asked him to build a god for them. Granted, Aaron was at fault. I'm not saying he wasn't free of guilt. Even Moses, his brother, asked him why he allowed this to happen. But it could be that Aaron was afraid that the people would hurt him if he didn't do it bcz AGAIN, THE PEOPLE asked HIM to do it. He probably just gave in to the pressure of the people.
Someone else also mentioned that the people were wrongly punished because they hadn't been given the tablet with the commandments so they didn't know it was wrong to make a false god. But Ex. 20:3 says: You must not have any other gods against my face. True. The people hadn't received the tablets yet but they had been already told the Ten Commandments. They knew not to do that yet they did.
Justahuman - but super nonetheless
god tells david, "don't count my people".
david counts the people.. god tells david, "'cos you were naughty you gotta pick your punishment, will it be 'a' 7 years of famine, 'b' 3 months of national humiliation or 'c' 3 days of pestilence?
choose davey boy!".
I have already talked about this in another similar thread.
It seems to me that David's sin was not taking the census per se. Exodus 30:11-15 says that whenever Israel were to be summed/numbered/counted, offerings were to be made. David didn't offer sacrifices when he took the census. This coupled with the fact that David could've taken the census just to boast about how many people he was ruler of/over. It showed pride. The other times where census were taken, they were for the purpose of the priesthood, military - they were about to go to war or wanted to know who was old enough to serve in the military - or was instructed by God. This particular census by David doesn't seem to fit any of these.
About the Gibeonites - God wasn't the one who came up with the idea of offering the "seven men" to the Gibeonites. The text says that it was the Gibeonites and they specifically ask for people of Saul's house - descendants of Saul because it was Saul who murdered lots of Gibeonites. The reason why they asked for the lives of Saul's descendants could be that since those who died couldn't procreate anymore or continue their family life, the Gibeonites wanted to do the same to Saul but the text says that David felt sorry for one of Saul's children so he didn't offer him up.
justahuman - but super nonetheless
