Posts by humbled

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

humbled

The WTS stole our innocence and filled us with a toxic theology.

My whole being is sickened by the battle to regain the simple gratitude felt when, years ago, I met the Goodness that is often called God. God. That word is too loaded with the burdens of centuries of man-made theologies to be of any use some times. I am not comfortable with that word any more than i am with the word Jehovah. WT theology .

So it may seemed a strange anti-dote to recover my faith in that simple Goodness that I would read the writings of yet another theologian.

In reading James Cone, who rejected the prevailing white European theologies in favor of a Black Liberation theology, I was encouraged not to cramp my experience to conform to someone else's story. I do not have to fit my experience with the Good one Jesus spoke of into a church that does not love me and doesn't try to understand me.

I am not saying that picking this theology or that one holds the key to proof of God--Just saying that sometimes we are kicking against ideas of God that are formed to fill the agendas of certain men instead of for ALL PEOPLE. We even have to accept that we may have an experience of ,well, God and still not know much about him/her.

Indoctrination is a heavy burden. I do know Jesus takes that burden off. I just have to stop putting it back on.

I tried to add to the discussion and stay on topic. Thanks for the thread. It helps me think.

Maeve

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John the Baptiser work - wt July 2013

by Splash in

i noticed another subtle date change in the july wt regarding the 'john the baptizer work' that is now said to have been completed by ct russell:.

w50 8/1 p. 229 par.

9 serving with the servant :.

humbled

"O! What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!"

Sir Walter Scott

WTS Theology

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Forum Policy: Off Topic Comments and Nonsense

by Simon in

some people didn't seem to get the message so i'll repeat it to make clear:.

posting off topics comments and general gibberish / nonsense is something i class as spam and will not be tolerated.. any posts found will be removed and if it's repeatedly by the same poster then they will be deleted as well.. thank you for everyone else who uses the forum for proper discussion..

humbled

Just to say "Thanks" for providing and maintaining a livingroom for us to talk to each other. I am glad you have limits to what is done and said to derail a topic.

Without someone to "bounce" we just would have to leave the space to anyone who can out-type, out-tech, out-crude us.

Thanks for allowng just a little bit of it too :-) We learn the limits sometimes from one another.

Maeve

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Today Is TotallyADD's 5th Birthday

by Reopened Mind in

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no, he is not 5 years old, he is 59 today.

totallyadd like many of you was raised in the cult and not allowed to celebrate his birthdays.

he was always on the outside looking in, deprived of cake and comraderie.

humbled

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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Joy based upon faith is just not enough

by sosoconfused in

at the hieght of my jehovah's witnessness like most people it seemed that everything that i found joy in was always bookmarked with the "new system" that i was eagerly awaiting.

if i went on vacation and i was truly enjoying a moment in the sun and total peace the first thought out of someones mouth was always, "just imagine(i am sure everyone knows what is coming next) in the future when everyday will be like this in the new system!".

then there were those anniversary parties when you are so proud someone made 20 or 25 years and the next word out someones mouth inevitably was, "this is a great milestone... but just imagine in the new system when we will say how proud we are we made it to 1 million!!!!..

humbled

What can I say, soso?

You have expressed feelings from the life of a Witness that is so hard to understand, so hard to describe...

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I'm so glad the anointed were 'demoted'.

by a watcher in

now they can mingle inconspicuously with the 'other sheep' without being 'made an example of' (for better or worse)..

humbled

Righton, Tornapart!

That scripture you note is one they NEVER EVER STUDY. All they study is the one before it--"Call no one on earth Father..."

They absolutely made themselves the authoritative Teacher above all others--including Jesus.

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Help me in my quest to free my sister

by Ed Daly in

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hi there everyone, looking for some advice on helping my sister who is studying the bible with a jehovahs witnesses to escape.

shes been studying for over a year now and attends meetings occasionally.

i have been looking for a way to help her for a while now and the answer fell into my lap last week, during her study last week she mentioned that her son was going to a birthday party.

humbled

Ask her if she knows of women who have dated a charmer. And then after she married him he turns from the sweet man she thought he was into a controlling tyrant. Can't see her family, friends or choose what clothes she can wear, etc. If only she had talked to his ex-wife or ex-girlfriends! But of course he would never let her near them.

A good thing to do would be to listen to others who the WTS "courted". See what happened after they tied the knot with the Organization. Is it the same after baptism as it appears before? NO!

She will never get to hear what will happened to her later if she doesn't listen now.

Good luck!

Maeve

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Julia gets hit with the Shun Gun for the first time...and it really hurts.

by Julia Orwell in

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my jw friend of 20 years, the first one i ever met, the one who got me into jwism in the first place, unfriended me from facebook without explanation.

other jws who have unfriended me at least called me names (apostate) and told me they were unfriending me, but they were no loss.

but someone who's been your friend since you were 13...and no explanation...i'd think 20 years- 20 years!

humbled

I'm sorry that it's happening to you, Julia. I remember how two of my very best friends would come and talk to me as I was going through the long process that ended in my own DA/DFing. One knew the particulars and the other didn't--didn't want to. At first I couldn't conceive of their shunning me. Ever. But as the process continued I could feel how mentally crushing the religion was. And I knew they would have to choose me or the religion.

Not a word from them in three years. And both of them know I have been going through a rough patch with cancer(non-witness spouse and daughter of one has kept in touch).

We helped each other through so much over the 22 years I was in.

Yet, not a word. It is a powerful and dreadful cult that can do this to friends. I can't believe this doesn't hurt them too.

I am happy that you are coming out of it. You are going to find wonderful non-JW friends I am sure. You are fun to have on the board and insightful.

Take care.

Maeve