im sure this has been discussed before but i was wondering if anyone has any links to pdf or online versions of some of these so called discredited and banned books of the bible...?
the life of adam and evethe book of jubileesthe book of enochdead sea scrollsthe infancy gospel of thomasproto-gospel of jamesthe gnostic scriptures of nag hammadithe gospel of marythe gospel of nicodemusthe apocalypse of petergnostic apocalypse of peterthe gospel of judasor if you have any info on their history (aside from youtube).
i've been doing my own research so far but if anyone can help speed it up or point me in the right direction or even just share what they have discovered i'd appreciate it.
Nearly every bit of writing they find is only a rorschach test.
What can you believe is dependent on you ultimately.
What is credible?
As Jgnat says-in a thousand years maybe the DaVinci Code will be on the list of pseudoapochraphas.
But reading is good--and never enough.
greetings, fellow posters!.
movies can easily show emotion on an actor's face, or depict what he's thinking by his actions.
not so easily in writng.
SYLVIA!
HELLO!
I've missed you, missed you, missed you!
Maeve (formerly Not a Captive)
im sure this has been discussed before but i was wondering if anyone has any links to pdf or online versions of some of these so called discredited and banned books of the bible...?
the life of adam and evethe book of jubileesthe book of enochdead sea scrollsthe infancy gospel of thomasproto-gospel of jamesthe gnostic scriptures of nag hammadithe gospel of marythe gospel of nicodemusthe apocalypse of petergnostic apocalypse of peterthe gospel of judasor if you have any info on their history (aside from youtube).
i've been doing my own research so far but if anyone can help speed it up or point me in the right direction or even just share what they have discovered i'd appreciate it.
You can find many on line or under gnostic web-sites.
They are available through amazon.
The name "Gnostic" is a way to designate many non-canonical books as heretical. But just remember that you and I are called "apostates" and no JW even considers or even hears a word we have to say.
Read Elaine Pagels--or even read the reviews of her books on the Gnostic writings. That is a free way to get handle on content from many view points. she is, in my view, a great source of information on how to step back from scripure to consider the historical view point but also a way to step into the content.
Good luck and do not be afraid, you may enjoy having Jesus the carpenter brought to earth and knowing that's where he belongs--with us. That's how it was for me.
Maeve
qualifications to become gods channel of communication[this article was contributed by apollos].
the new teaching of the appointment of the faithful and discreet slave has arguably made 1919 an even more important date to jehovahs witnesses than 1914. appendix b1 of the revised nwt bible shows a time line of the message of the bible in relation to gods rulership.
it is of note that the official doctrine of the establishment of gods kingdom in 1914 is not even mentioned only that satan was cast down around that time.. ever since the 1919 doctrine was announced at the 2012 agm, and subsequently published in the july 15th watchtower 2013, the appointment of the slave seems to have become a much more prominent topic in our teaching, and indeed in general discussion among witnesses.. of course we should remind ourselves that this new level of interest really has nothing to do with the date, and everything to do with the nature of the appointment.
WOW. And again I say, "Wow!"
Add this as a chapter in the Reasoning book!
Scriptures and reasoning would lay this matter to rest after this last teaching about who the Slave is.
micah 6:8 might be - or have been - a favourite verse of many.
the verse used to read:.
"he has told you, o earthling man, what is good.
Phizzy--Another good point--and a problem for their argument for their consistent word-for-word rendering of scripture that was supposed to prop up their claim to superiority of the JW bible.
What JW will ever know it if they are forbidden to research anything outside or inside the Society's literature?
O, the poor dumb-bunnies! and I was in that racket, too.
micah 6:8 might be - or have been - a favourite verse of many.
the verse used to read:.
"he has told you, o earthling man, what is good.
Great catch, roryks.
steve 2--YES! Absolutely!
Next time I hear that Christians NOW know better what the scriptures mean--- this self-interested change to the text will be brought up!
No way to trust scriptures when you don't know who will wield the pen--today-- and yesterday--and the day before that.....
Maeve
i left as an inactive person.
i pretty much have been left alone by the elders and witnesses, as far as being hounded.. i know of many that either disassociated or got disfellowshipped.. i'm wondering if you think you would have remained a jw, in name only, if the religion (cult) didn't shun and penalize as they do..
I left and had to. I just couldn't go when I realized the whole thing was rotten from the head down. It had made me sick, too. The shunning didn't matter one way or the other. But looking back and knowing that my best friend and I said good-by because she knew they would Df me if I disassociated--well, it is revolting to have not seen the sickness of it before.
greetings, fellow posters!.
movies can easily show emotion on an actor's face, or depict what he's thinking by his actions.
not so easily in writng.
she is a vision of peace--other-worldly.
or magical realisism.
lovely
hey i joined this thread recently and thought this was a good way to introduce myself.
i am 15, still going to school and i live in the uk.
a good chunk of my mum's side of the family are jws.
Great clear thinking.
Do not waver. You have good reasons not to join up. You won't miss a beat in getting on in life as long as you steer clear of a religion that will not respect your thinking and your conscience.
Hang on to your convictions, DuvanMuvan.
I had 7 children and the ones who stood up to me and the Witnesses about the "Truth" are the happiest--Now ALL of them are out and so am I. They are all out and doing fine.
Maeve
im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.
will try to be as succinct as possible!.
am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.
OLK, Welcome.
I really hope your Mom will think how beautiful her toleration is and how void the WTBTS is.
Your post was a delight of clear thinking, marching out one thought following another--to action.
Maeve
