Posts by humbled

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Human kindness

by stillin in

jw
friends

i hold kindness in high regard; it separates us from the drudgery of life and elevates those who practice it as well as those who receive it.

my family has been going through a big crisis for several weeks now and i've noticed a few things.

several of the elders have expressed their concern for us, shared a scripture and then back out to field service or whatever.

Human kindness

by stillin in

jw
friends

i hold kindness in high regard; it separates us from the drudgery of life and elevates those who practice it as well as those who receive it.

my family has been going through a big crisis for several weeks now and i've noticed a few things.

several of the elders have expressed their concern for us, shared a scripture and then back out to field service or whatever.

Yep--what you say about kindness is right on--We know it for what it is where ever i comes from and whoever gives it. It takes at least the time to slow down and look a what is happening to a person in trouble and say or do a thing to help.

That much anyone can do--no matter how poor we are. It takes so little and can mean so much.

When I had my cancer treatment and recovery, persons whose names I never knew were kind to me. It healed me as much as the radiation and chemo, I am certain.

I hope you are soon past this current trouble and thanks for the reminder of the kindness that is available to receive and to give.

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Look what's trending on Yahoo

by carla in

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humbled

Glad to see it's in the news.

When JWs came to my door, I remember this pitch:"Hey- you do not need a clergyman ruling your understanding of scripture--you can read God's word plainly for yourself, right? Here, read this....... what does it say? 'Call no one on earth your father..' JWs do not have a paid clergy, we are all brothers. Isn't that nice?"

Right--

controlled much? O, yeah.

"the brothers" totally tell you what God says and means--WAY beyond anything I ever experienced around other churches. And no, they do not protect children. They protect the WTBTS.

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What if the GB now stated, "Now that's it for the new changes, Stay tuned for 2114"

by Quarterback in

what if the gb has used up all it's bag of tricks, no more adjustments, the ten toes are like the hokey pokey, that's what it's all about?.

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humbled

Yep, Ocean1111--

Like the Great Wizard of Oz ascending in the balloon leaving Dorothy behind--waving goodbye. Tough bounce, you guys, we're outta here.

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"Controlling followers based on the threat of punishment and Hell is WRONG!" (Public talk)

by stuckinarut2 in

yep...that was the topic discussed in a recent public talk!.

the speaker went on about how a "god of love, along with his organisation, would never threaten people with punishment and hell!".

talk about hypocrisy!

humbled

Good point, stuckin.

Cofty has a thread Islam's Psychotic Obsession with Hell that has video clip of an audience listening to the sick spiel of a Muslim preacher going on about hell. I heard the sermon but it was watching the audience and remembering sitting myself sitting through the bullshit indoctrination of white-washed hate that I tolerated and brought my children to hear, too.

I was struck at the same thing you mention here--the threat of a vengeful God (of love?) terrorizing and killing unbelievers and the unfaithful. It is grossly hypocritical for them not to see it is the SAME!

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

humbled

Barbara, thanks for staying on the trail. It is hard to think of the children that had their abuse covered over.

I hope the stink of this rises so high that they can smell it in the sealed kingdom Halls everywhere.

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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

by frankiespeakin in

with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

what say you?.

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humbled

..and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. John 8:44

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Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

by Gnostic Bishop in

have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

humbled

Laika--

Yep-that patriarchy thing--it's tied up with hierarchy--which Gnostic Bishop says they do have presently. And it's an evolving religion.

So who proposes the
"New Light" when there is an evolutionary change? The rank &file? Or like most religions they are not supposed to be anything but silent empty-minded vessels for the real spiritual guides?

Nothing really new then--even if they start out different they all end up the same.

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Jeptha's Daughter- what actuallyt happened??

by Kudra in

hi all, especially the scholars amongst you ;)a .

i was listening to richard dawkin's talk at lynchburg va and he was tlaking about how horrible the god of the old testament was- and he mentioned this: .

that when jeptha's daughter came out (and jeptha had promised god he'd sacrifice the first thing out of his house) that he had to sacrifice her as a burnt offering.

humbled

Hey, nancy,

We know what Abe thought he knew what God meant----because of what he tried to do. But I am not convinced that he knew what the hell was going on with that test...

Because "burnt offering" is olah . and Olah is the word that was used in the Genesis22 story. not zebach. Zebach is the word for slaughter. It is unequivocal for the slashing cut of the victims throat. It would have been a wrap if that word were used.

Though it is reasonably assumed that a burnt offering is a whole animal killed and burnt (without the offerer retaining so much as a tail tassle)It is a mistake to think that olah and zebach were always understood to be interchangable. Abraham certainly assumed they were the same. And yet he was wrong. The word olah in its root meaning is completely different from the explicit word that graphically descibes slaughter (zebach).

How do we know that the Hebrews eventually made this distinction? When the Mosaic law set up all the involved practice for sacrifice ( and there were slews of new words and types of sacrifices) over and over you will see the two words are used in the same sentence--"sacrifice and burnt offering"--an occurance not necessary if they meant the same thing, But they didn't

It is said so often that Hebrew language is derived from concrete ideas--Written, the Hebrew alphabet pictures material objects--aleph=ox or bull, bet=house, gimel=throwing stick, dalet=door---stuff like that.

Olah means "ascent, as smoke rises up to heaven".

Eventually, there were no mistakes of understanding--and no one tried to kill their child for a burnt offering.

And I am not going to say one way or another what I think Abraham heard--I don't know if he got a letter, heard voices or ate the wrong kind of mushrooms. Just saying that this idea that Abraham hadn't a clue what was really going down as he walked toward Mt. Moriah--- But the Genesis22 word that was always used in every copy of scripture has been olah-- so maybe Abe figured it out afterward.

Old, old story.

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Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

by Gnostic Bishop in

have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.

humbled

No answer for me?