Three cheers for Hilary....................
fifi40
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Prayer on a Dare
by jgnat inmy prayers are on a roll lately, and i believe god wouldn't be too upset if i laid out my request list, as a special favor for an athiest friend of mine.
i have reason to be confident, beyond the regular faith thing.
i've had some important prayers answered lately.
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Jgnat
Nice idea....................I dont pray anymore so should I do this myself or ask you to do it...........
My request is that the parents of Madeleine McCann have her returned to them alive and physically well...........or is that too much to ask
Fifi
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Dear Vinny
Firstly, lets address your rather lengthy ramblings on Einstein. He was a Physicist, not a religious expert, who was raised a Jew. He like many of us on this board was raised with a religious belief and therefore it is understandable that he would have 'respect' for the theory of there being a creator. Who is to say that had he lived to this day, he would not have changed his mind about the origin of life, as more scientific proof becomes available. Certainly this is what many religious organisations have done, changed there minds as proof has become available. Many churches have in fact come into line with the observed facts that support evolution and welded it to their own mystical inherited beliefs in a 'God'.
Secondly please do not confuse automobiles with organisms. It makes for a very poor argument. The simplest answer to your argument, and I hesitate to use it because it is such a 'limp' argument in the first place, is that just because a car has a creator does not mean that the person responsible for 'creating' it is still alive today. So, if I were a 'believer', a rhetorical question I may be asking myself in light of world conditions is, Is God still alive?
We have evidence that single cells multiply. We have proof that energy transforms or takes on different forms. It is proven that complex chemicals can emerge from simpler chemicals. We have proof that conditions on earth are suitable to support life.
You argue that life could have not come from 'nothing'. Therefore the onus lies with you to prove that there ever was a time of nothingness. Gods or the bibles version of life requires a beginning. Science does not require a beginning because there is no 'proof' that there ever was nothingness. You expect people to believe in a 'creator' who had no beginning, but on the other hand to accept that life cannot come from nothing. So where did 'God' come from? What circumstance gave rise to this 'God'? To accept that he has always been, is no more admissible than belief that the universe has always been, that there never was a time of nothingness. It is somewhat primitive thinking to think that all things need a beginning and an end.
There are many concepts of how life came about on this planet earth including Abiogenesis, Panspermia and who knows what the future holds in the way of established fact about the origin of life. Evolution is supported by a huge amount of observed fact. Observation contradicting evolution as the origin of humankind is on the other hand practically non existent.
As you quite rightly stated atheists do not believe in the existence of a 'God'. Some were once believers, so please dont insult the intelligent thought and study that has led them to such conclusion. Because they choose not to buy into a belief system based on being threatened with (eternal) violence does not require a so called 'spanking' from supposed christians. Because they choose to accept scientifc proof, established fact and observation and wait on what has yet to be discovered, makes them in my eyes rational human beings, free of mind controlling teachings that are in the very least 'confused' and at most based on 'mysticism and fear'.
You stick with your 'God', though I am quite sure you are totally unaware of his beginnings. I am quite sure that you have not studied the ways in which religions have changed to adapt to social climate, how montheistic religions originated from polytheistic belief systems and that who you now serve was probably a 'storm' god, one of about 70 worshipped at one point in history by your ancestors. You stick with your 'God' who if he is all powerful, stands by whilst atrocities are committed in his name, and allows countless other evils to be visited on his creation.
Just dont try to sell him to others, like he is some miracle cure for all the ailments human kind faces, and suggest those that choose not to worship or believe in him are idiots that require a good spanking.
Fifi
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The blood.......in reality is the person himself
by fifi40 injust found this cool site for watchtower statements..............this one is on blood and goes on to say how 'moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes-these often follow in the wake of blood transfusions'.
there are lots more topics to compare watchtower statements on from racism, rape its all here...............amazing and sorry if its already been posted about.
http://www.reexamine.org/quotes/admin-site-map.htm#beliefs.
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Just found this cool site for watchtower statements..............this one is on blood and goes on to say how 'Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes-these often follow in the wake of blood transfusions'
There are lots more topics to compare watchtower statements on from racism, rape its all here...............amazing and sorry if its already been posted about
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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Ninja tests out a new haircut.........and someone mentioned glasses can make a man look kinda sexy
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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Ninja flys the flag for Bonny Scotland........are you a wee bit bored yet
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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I hear your quite a hero in your local area on the guitar.........
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How well do you think this article on Uncyclopedia is coming?
by 5go inhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witness.
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i added a lot but it still needs a complete rewrite..
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I like it..........especially the airplane taking aome of the 144,000 to heaven............all very funny
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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seeing if I can make it bigger
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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This is my fave of you though ninja...........