well, I'll take a stab at it. The eyeball is held in place by four optic muscles. They work together to move the eye as needed and also they help to control the shape of the eye. Some people can learn to control the muscles somewhat individually, or maybe it happens under a certain kind of stress. I think that some of the drama in these pentacostal type churches is a learned behavior. You can practice and learn to roll your eyes back in your head. You can see it better if you do a search for optic muscles in google images.
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DELILAH'S STRANGE EXPERIENCE......
by Mary inok, i wasn't sure if i should post this, but was convinced by buttlight someone who shall remain nameless.
i was talking to delilah the other day (she hasn't been posting because their computer broke down a few months ago).
she had a bizzarre experience at work a couple of weeks ago that really freaked her out.. the friday before easter, one of the women who works on her floor, was passing flyers out inviting people to a worship service that weekend.
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Scared the P~Waddins out of me! Scary People out there!!
by Sparkplug inso my daughter walked to the end of my street to the store.
it is still daylight and it is drizzling, and she cut down the alley.
we have friends that live right by the store, and recently there was several houses bulldozed over.
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please watch out for those precious children - someone can snatch them so fast! I am so glad that it turned out all right this time, hurts my chest just to think about it.
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Percentage of JW's that are undercover?
by flipper inwhat do you think?
it seems like a lot are there so they won't lose family and friends - are in good standing but don't actually believe.
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I learned from this forum that there are a lot of folks who not only don't believe, but also see the org. for what it is, but don't leave because it would mean the loss of their families. but, back in the day when I was in the org., I knew people who didn't believe, but also just didn't care. No big deal, easier to go to the meetings, look the part, take it easy, but keep their families. But they tended to be popular, easy-going people and everyone else cut them a lot of slack.
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CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
by Terry ina semi-famous math professional poses this question in a book i'm reading.. i find the answer to be counter-intuitive, but, entertaining.. here is the question:.
you buy a sack of spuds that weighs 100lbs and are told it is 99% water.. you leave the sack outside in the sun for a couple of days before bringing it inside to store.. you find the spuds are now only 98% water.. how much does the sack of spuds weigh?
(this is not a trick question.
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well, the way I figured it, I came out with 98.98 as the answer, it's algebra, isn't it? I used to be good at algebra, but that was decades ago.
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VA Tech Incident - Stupid Things People Say
by Seeker4 inwatching all the pundits on tv after the killings at va tech yesterday, there were a handful of things that kept getting repeated that are just stupid.
usually they also require an impossible level of hindsight (which a good number of the pundits have, it seems).
i've just got to rant about this for a few minutes.
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Hortensia
"and sweeping, generalized, feel-good messages are what sells."
And righteous outrage sells - a lot of television journalists seem to deal in righteous outrage. Nancy Grace, for instance. Very good post, thank you!
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yeah, I thought this thread was about Jim Morrison too! Nothing ever happened at the doors, it was mind-numbingly boring except for the time the elderly sister's slip fell off while she was talking at the door. She had great aplomb, and just picked it up and put it in her bag.
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Count-Down 5: Spiritual Orgasmic Fantasies !
by Amazing in15-years ago today, i was 40-years old.
my wife was 39, my kids were 20, 18, 16, and 14. we were in our exit process to be completed by july 1992. i gave my last talk as a jw, the memorial talk.
i resigned the following sunday, giving up my position as public talk coordinator, and never returned again ... except for a funeral, a wedding, and one last memorial a year later (i didn't want to go, but i attended as a favor to one kind jw.).
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in my experience when people tell you that you sound bitter they are doing it to invalidate or minimize what you are saying. When really horrible things happen, normal people react with feelings. The ongoing corrupt record of the WTBTS evokes ongoing disgust and anger from those of use who know what it is really like inside and outside the org.
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Did Being In The Organization Produce Anything Good?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style2 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; color: #1b8f8f; } .style3 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: #1b8f8f; } --> did being in the organization produce anything good?everyone has his or her perspective and viewpoint about the watchtower society.. true, most of us on this board know the history and story behind the watchtower.
however, is there anything that you learned from your jehovahs witness past that .
you appreciate even today?.
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about the only thing I use is the training in public speaking. It is pretty pathetic training, but at least we were made to get up in front of everyone and talk about something. so in spite of being quite shy I am able to do public speaking. We got to get out of town several times a year - for a really poor family those trips to the conventions were our only vacation. Can't think of much else...
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Describe Your Emotion Involving The Witnesses
by minimus inare you angry?
dissapointed?
saddened?
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well, I hate all religions because of the awful effect they have on the world. Religion has outlived its usefulness. I am a little bitter (I had to pause and search myself to see if I am telling the truth here, but I think I am) about wasted opportunities and all the betrayal I experienced, but that is a long time ago and I have a different life now. I am disgusted by the stuff I learn and the stuff I know from personal experience about the way the org. tears families apart and teaches people it is OK not to love. Appalled at the way many have been treated. Stunned at the way people buy into all that s**t, although I shouldn't be as I bought into it for years. Glad that I am not a part of it at all, except for participating here.
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So I don't know where to start, so here is my story........
by hazeleyes ini've been searching around at all the posts her just reading and trying to figure things out for myself, i just don't know what to do anymore, so i guessed that i'd tell you all my story and hopefully get some kinda answers.
so here goes...... born a jw, have been one all my life, baptized at 13 and was the good little girl in the cong.
when all my friends were up to badness.
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Hortensia
my dear, you need counseling and the elders aren't qualified to give it to you in any way that will help you. As others have said, apply for all the social services for which you qualify. Find other single mothers to talk with, they can give you support and ideas. Find a therapist, psychologist, psychiatrist to help you sort things out. You kids need you, so you need to be as healthy as possible.
You might talk to a local rape counseling center to find out about free or low cost counseling, you have a LOT of issues to work through.
I have found it very helpful to vent here on this website, as everyone is compassionate and helpful. Let everyone here know what steps you are taking, and how it works out.