one of my part time jobs is at a retail gift store .
i have worked there for over 20 yrs .
the owner has had this seminar a few times over the past few yrs ,and i am scheduled to once again attend this weekend .
Sudden illness? Ask the boss for a different seminar as you've heard this one before? Offer to teach the seminar yourself, make up a good sample outline and think of all the things you'd really like to tell trainee salespeople?
I feel for you -- I can barely stand anything resembling a meeting at the KH. Even after all these years I still can't stand anything like a meeting.
i'm talking like makes you physically sick and emotionally frazzled just thinking about it.
i'm talking like you hate it to the point you'd rather go without than work at it just for the money.
you'd live on cheap korean packet noodles for the next year instead of exchanging your labor for this job's money.. well, this is how i feel about teaching and tutoring.
I agree about burnout -- maybe read up on burnout on the internet and start doing things to refresh yourself and build energy. Exercising outside every day is good for you and free.
I also agree about self-employment. I have been out of the wtbts for more than 30 years. I had no job skills when I got out, was cleaning houses for a living. I went to a trade school and learned a skill and made my living through self-employment. It has its ups and downs, but working for yourself is a darn sight better than working for someone else at a job you hate.
It took me some time to feel grounded and to know how to run my life after the wtbts, but it worked out eventually. I definitely recommend counseling -- I went to a psychologist and it made all the difference for me. It gave me boundaries, goals, ways to interact with other people and an understanding of how what I had been through affected my behavior.
Julia, maybe you can use your time off from the tourism job to explore some form of self-employment. Look around and see what the needs are -- maybe some of those tourists who own houses in your area need someone like you to look after their houses during the off-season when they aren't there? How to combine teaching and tourism? Maybe start taking burned-out teachers on retreats. I know a nurse who started that, she has been taking other nurses on retreats for 30 years now. Originally she did retreats in beautiful locations with lots of continuing-education classes so that nurses could combine continuing education with some relaxation and self-nourishment. Nowadays she still mostly draws customers from nursing, but they do lots of retreats to so-called "magical" places, things to do with King Arthur, for instance.
Kate, I'm sure you and your daughter would get some help from counseling to raise your confidence. Is it a possibility? I was amazed at how much it helped me. When I got out of the wtbts I was pretty beaten-down and depressed. I had pretty much given up on life, but that actually was a good thing. I got going again in a different direction with the help of my psychologist and some anti-depressant med, as well as some training in a new skill.
i have a relative by marriage, who is gay.
she has been shunned since she was 19 when she "came-out" to the family just a few weeks before she and an older married sister in the hall ran off together.
this pretty 19 year old had been babysitting for a married sister since she was in jr. high school.
Thanks for sharing!
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. can't, have family still in.
were you a born in or a convert?.
convert.
Thanks -- interesting read
so i think the title pretty much says it all.
i have a tendancy to be long winded about things, so i'll just give a general introduction and maybe tell things as i go along.
i don't even really know what i want from this site (ironically i remember jehovahs-witness.net mentioned from the platform as a site not to go to).
Hi Wanderlust, welcome!
so i think the title pretty much says it all.
i have a tendancy to be long winded about things, so i'll just give a general introduction and maybe tell things as i go along.
i don't even really know what i want from this site (ironically i remember jehovahs-witness.net mentioned from the platform as a site not to go to).
Oh goodness, I'm sorry you're going through this. It will pass. You'll find a new life and you'll enjoy it more than you ever would the JW life. Have you finished college? Make some plans -- where would you like to go, what would you like to do in life and what would it take to get there? Don't do dumb things like drugs and unprotected sex, that will just make life harder. But get out, join groups doing things you like or are interested in. Do some traveling, get as much education as possible.
Also, make sure you exercise outside every day - the daylight and the exercise help you keep from getting depressed while you make all these changes in your life.
One of the best things I did after getting out of the wtbts was get counseling. I am still amazed at how much I didn't know about real life that I learned from my psychologist.
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.
http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
Apognophos, I looked at the thread you linked. It's a good example of the kind of stuff that makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
it's hard for me to start this topic bc i feel like i'm being judgmental, a quality i don't like in others and one i try to stay away from as much as possible.
i really do try to be an understanding, caring person.
i essentially believe that all people are good and i am shocked to my core when i am betrayed.
Back slowly away from this person. Become too busy to spend time with her. She's nuts and likes drama, and she has a dangerous person in her life. You don't want to be around when her life explodes -- you might get hit with shrapnel.
i think it's remarkable that real watch tower history exists, despite the watchtower society's attempts to control the message.
by now, everyone who reads my posts knows i'm a fan of the truthhistory.blogspot.com blog.
and of the new book, a separate identity.
OK, just the old edit/rewrite coming out in me.
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.
http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
It seems to me that many threads about science or atheism turn into attacks on cofty. There's nothing wrong with cofty -- he's intelligent and well-read. He articulates his position well and he doesn't back down when he's abused, as he often is on this forum.
If he can take the heat, why can't all of you who are complaining about him?
It's funny; I started the thread and cofty gets called names.
I did make a generalization based on personal experience; I get that. Not all religious people are evangelical, and some atheists are evangelical. But how did it become christians vs. cofty? It's interesting to me that I'm probably one of the more obnoxious atheists around here with some true contempt for religion, but I don't get attacked like cofty. I think that's because he's much more articulate and really hits the nail on the head, which makes people nervous and upset because they don't have any answer to what he says.
Oh well, carry on!
