Posts by Paisley

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I hate my mother, that Jehovah created.

by vomit in

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i believe i grew up a good son, for 10 years i stayed in a religion that i did not agree with.

the day my mother got cancer something died with in me.

i didn't feel sorry for her i felt sorry for me.

Paisley

vomit

I can never know when it is the religion or the person speaking, and I don't know what I can do to help these people. I can barely help myself get other being a child of Jehovah and I hate what Jehovah requires of Parents.

Vomit, I really really feel for you. How sad it is when I hear the empty way so many were raised by JW parents. The quote above is so right on in my experience. I'm sorry for whatever it was that you experienced growing up that ruined your view of things too. I hope you get some relief from that at some point.

About the mastectomies and hysterectomies, I had never thought about that connection. How interesting - I am not aware of the incidence of either being higher among JW women.

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Do you tend to think that many things "go without saying"? I do...

by Paisley in

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after an eye-opening conversation with an old acquaintance yesterday, someone i don't know well but thought i had some clue about .

we've all heard it said "i'm not a mind reader you know, speak up!

i didn't know you felt that way.

Paisley

J-ex-W

It goes without saying, that I did tell him.

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Do you tend to think that many things "go without saying"? I do...

by Paisley in

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after an eye-opening conversation with an old acquaintance yesterday, someone i don't know well but thought i had some clue about .

we've all heard it said "i'm not a mind reader you know, speak up!

i didn't know you felt that way.

Paisley

Thebiggestlie

this thread is all about my dad...

and misanthropic

mine too.

Thanks for your comments, and I'm sorry this describes your dads too.

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anyone else out there land on a psych ward after being df'd???

by Messy in

its a long story that starts with panic attacks going door to door and ended with a 2 month vacation in the cornwall on.

psych floor for two months.

i was stalked by the elders for 3 years after i stopped going to meetings.

Paisley

Hi Messy, welcome, I'm so glad you found this place and us.

I was stalked by the elders for 3 years after i stopped going to meetings. they followed me, came to my home, my boyfriends home, his parents house, my place of work

I hope that's all over with now! Too bad you couldn't get a restraining order or something - they were really out of line to follow you like that. Pathetic and cruel.

No, I didn't suffer too much after being df'd. It was more of a relief and I do tend to react with anger more than anything else, so no panic, no sadness. Not over being df'd anyway. I later went back for several years for the sake of the kids who were suffering psychologically over my pending death at Armageddon for being df'd though.

Panic attacks are horrendous and I hope that's over too...I've only ever had mild ones so I can't imagine the horror of a full blown one.

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Faith in God and the Church - Part 2 of 2 The Catholic Faith

by Amazing in

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my story is sub-titled so you can skip ahead to parts that interest you most.. by way of reminder, my posting on "faith in god and the church" is not meant to convert anyone, because i have been out of the preaching business now for 14-years.

i am sharing my views given the questions i get when i do post about belief in god or my association with the catholic church.. why the catholic church?

protestants, especially fundamentalists and evangelicals have a hard spot with the roman catholic church.

Paisley

Well Amazing you have been through a lot and are only human. I wish you well, Catholic Church association or not.

My lack of enthusiasm for the religious teachings of the Catholic Church have nothing to do with what I was taught as a JW.

It's the existence of the position of Pope, the priests who are not permitted to marry, the horrendous history of child molestation and cover up, and the past church history of forcing people to believe or at least submit.

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I missed all of my sister's 20's

by Crumpet in

i think my sister is 29 today.

that means due to this vile cult i missed all of her 20's.

so desperately sad that a religion can break family ties this way.

Paisley

Aww, Crumpet, happy birthday to your sister...and you've put a lump in my throat. I'm sorry you've lost out on many years with your sister. I worry about it all the time, with my kids, too; and I'm just going to keep a positive thought for you and your family, that things often change and they very well may for you too!

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Do you tend to think that many things "go without saying"? I do...

by Paisley in

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after an eye-opening conversation with an old acquaintance yesterday, someone i don't know well but thought i had some clue about .

we've all heard it said "i'm not a mind reader you know, speak up!

i didn't know you felt that way.

Paisley

Mama

Definitely inconsiderate. My Dad was a little bit like that, he would talk and talk while we waited in the parking lot (Mom was not one to enjoy visiting after) and she would have to go back in a couple times and remind him we were waiting.
My husband was never a dub, but he has to be told everything. He cannot pick up on irritation or impatience at all. i could definitely see him doing something like that and if I didn't say something it would go on and on. Luckily, I don't keep quiet in those kinds ofsituations. I would jump in the drivers seat and say I'll be back to pick you up after lunch buddy.

Good to know! I take it you're fully convinced he means well in spite of this quirk then! Good. As far as driving off without him, see that was the problem. We wanted his company. It was so rare to be in his company. And when we were together, he was lost in thought, never fully there with us anyway. Am I whining enough today?? Lol. I'm just saying these things to see how common it all may have been and also to hopefully remind some fathers and husbands that wives and children are people too, and not to blow it for themselves and their families, only to regret it later when it would be too late.

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JWs and tatoos

by Phil in

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i noticed while watching the aussie tennis open that serina williams has a tatoo on her back that shows a little when her dress top shifts a little after some intense play.

what does the wt think of tattoos particularly on women jws.

i noticed she still does that "jehovah" thing in her finishing speach, that tells me that she is still in the org.

Paisley

Honesty

Hmmmm...
I wonder why not since the Watchtower Society loves to identify with Old Testament practices.
Then Aaron replied to them, “Take off the gold rings that are on the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters and bring [them] to me.” Ex 32:2

Good point. They pick and choose which of the OT things to keep applying!

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Do you tend to think that many things "go without saying"? I do...

by Paisley in

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after an eye-opening conversation with an old acquaintance yesterday, someone i don't know well but thought i had some clue about .

we've all heard it said "i'm not a mind reader you know, speak up!

i didn't know you felt that way.

Paisley

Thanks RV

From a man's point of view, yes it was inconsiderate, and should have been painfully obvious. The shame of it is that the bible tells us to take care of those of our own household first. So even if there was important cong. problems, it still would have been wrong.
RV

It always amazed me that the bible instructed men to take care of their own, and if they did not do that, how could they take care of the congregation? And yet many, though clearly not all, families of elders were terribly neglected. First our elder child was reproved, being told she had come "this close" to being disfellowshipped, but due to mercy, sincere repentance, and extenuating circumstances, was only publicly reproved; then our second child was shocked to be disfellowshipped for something he had done only once, but there were other things he was involved in such as underage drinking (gee I wonder why). But he was deeply remorseful and humble about it all. He didn't resent the action taken by the congregation at all. Very interesting to me. My sweet kids. But in all this, their dad never considered stepping aside, and the brothers reassured him that it was due to no neglect on his part, he had after all always studied with them regularly and had taken them to the meetings and out in service....Never mind he never did any fun or family things with them and always holed up in his study from the moment he came home till after they went to bed every night.

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Grandma's in the Hospital- Help on a "JW in the family" problem

by OnTheWayOut in

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a bit long, but i really need to vent, and i really need your replies.. my uncle is a jw, his wife and son and daughter-in-law are jw's, too.. they all moved away from family over 15 years ago, serving where the need was greater.. they went out west to new mexico, then other places.

they all broke off all contact with their .

parents (my uncles parents who are my grandparents, and my aunt's parents who i don't know well).

Paisley

Well you have certainly done your best to find this person, I assume for the sake of the dying mother, so that's undoubtedly commendable.

One has to wonder why someone would so urgently try to track someone down who doesn't want to be found. Seems a little controlling to me; it is his business, after all.