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  Depression in the Org.

  by ssn587 in

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  it never seems to be brought up in jah's so wonderful org.

  but depression seems rampant, i can name 7-10 people right now on antidepreswsant drugs.

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  boyzone

  Depression in my cong was rife too. What IS going on? Is this just indicative of whats going on in society in general or is there a real problem in the Org?

  I suspect its a bit of both. Yes there is more cases of depression in general nowadays, but this is made worse by being a Witness. It exacerbates the problem and highlights it by making the JW feelings of guilt and not doing enough a fundamental part of the religion.

  I believe deep down, every JW knows there are real problems with this religion but they're trapped in it. If they allowed themselves to examine those disquieting thoughts, they'd all wake up. But that of course is too scary to contemplate, so a busy busy busy attitude is adopted to push away the disquieting thoughts and keep the status quo at all costs.

  But all this burying of thoughts and denial take alot of effort. Its hard work staying in denial just as its hard work staying angry. So the next resort is to turn to anti-depressants.

  After all, they live in a "spiritual paradise", they are "God's happy people" aren't they? They're told that is the way they're supposed to feel, so when they don't, they conclude something is wrong with them not the Org.

  But in many cases the problem lies with the religion itself. Its just a JW isn't allowed, is too scared, or refuses to see it.
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  Is the WTS compromising its stand towards preaching? – Our kingdom Ministry 2009, Question Box…

  by LUKEWARM in

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  2. friends

  on page 3 the question box asks: what should you do if directed to stop preaching?.

  the answer?

  "in some instances, police have approached publishers who were sharing in some form of the ministry, informed them that they were violating the law, and directed them to stop.

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  boyzone

  Hi Angel Eyes and thanks for the congrats.

  They use that scripture to justify not having anything to do with me. The elders particularly picked out the phrases "quit mixing in company" and "not even eating with such a man" as a reason to not have association with me. That scripture along with the one in 2 John which says "not say a greeting" was totally misapplied in my case to make the sisters see that I was never to be spoken to again when I DA'd.
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  new WT rule: no holding hands durning public prayer!

  by leftchica in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i just caught a glimpse of this new wt magazine(study edition) of course.. from dec 28th titled.

  "what do your prayers say about you".

  so now they are focosing on every aspect of our lifes even our actions during prayer.

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  boyzone

  Angel Eyes

  doesnt say cant or dont hold hands.... talks about embracing.

  So? How many couples do you really see in a full blown clinch during a prayer - if ever? Often I've seen a husband putting his arm around his wife's shoulder or waist during a prayer but thats it. After this WT, the brothers will be so oversensitive to how even this small gesture will be construed, that they'll probably hesitate to even do that!

  regarding holding hands it says "some marriage mates MIGHT discreetly hold hands".....doesnt say we cant

  What do you mean "doesn't say we can't"?? The Society shouldn't say anything! They haven't got the right to even comment on such a thing.

  Like I said, its control, control, control, even on the pettiest of matters.
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  Is the WTS compromising its stand towards preaching? – Our kingdom Ministry 2009, Question Box…

  by LUKEWARM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on page 3 the question box asks: what should you do if directed to stop preaching?.

  the answer?

  "in some instances, police have approached publishers who were sharing in some form of the ministry, informed them that they were violating the law, and directed them to stop.

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  boyzone

  Congratulations on your soon-to-be wedding anniversary AE! 10 years? Not bad, not bad at all!

  My hubby and I have been happily and faithfully married to each other for 27 years next month but unfortunately the congregation still use the scripture at 1 Cor 5 v 9-11 to catagorize me and label me.

  In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

  ......By the way, I am NONE of those things listed. I just dared to disagree with the Watchtower.
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  new WT rule: no holding hands durning public prayer!

  by leftchica in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i just caught a glimpse of this new wt magazine(study edition) of course.. from dec 28th titled.

  "what do your prayers say about you".

  so now they are focosing on every aspect of our lifes even our actions during prayer.

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  This to me demonstrates the WT's total oversensitivity to what others might think. I bet any visitors wouldn't give two hoots whether a couple are holding hands or putting an arm around a shoulder during a prayer but they might be surprised at the lack of contact generally displayed.

  It all smacks of control control control, even in the smallest of details like how to stand during a prayer. For cryin' out loud, when will they just lay off and stop being so bloody patronizing?!!
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  A few questions concerning Jehovah's Witnesses doctrines

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those familiar with my postings already know, i am a christian who is married to an active jehovah's witness (though not yet baptized).

  we discuss issues concerning the witnesses and their doctrines and have had "bible studies" with one of the elders.

  i've asked her about some of these things and i would like to share her responses and see if it lines up with watchtower teachings.. can a police officer become a jehovah's witness?.

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  boyzone

  Very interesting to read your posts Gary and some astute observations on your part. Please keep on trying to help your wife see just how wrong the WT is before she's baptized, because after that things get alot more serious if she tries to leave.
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  You are Still Special After Exiting the Witnesses-You Have a Purpose in Life

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  i wanted to post this as we have so many new ones on the board here - i thought they might benefit from some uplifting words from steve hassan's book " releasing the bonds " .

  many newly exiting the jw 's feel lost , like they don't know what to do , or where to turn, what causes that ?

  notice these quotes from steve hassan .. on pg.

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  boyzone

  Outlaw! You crack me up!!! Love your posts (and yours too Mr Flip xx)
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  My Daughter's opinion on disfellowshipping...

  by Tuesday in

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  2. friends

  thought folks would enjoy this video i posted online.

  it's only 47 seconds.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2izmpmqisei.

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  boyzone

  So gorgeous! And your daughter's cute too.
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  You Used to be a Jehovah's Witness? What an Ugly Human You Are! (until you get a glimpse of the beauty)

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  2. friends

  (truth be known, i am a bit of a softy, with a nice @$$shole exterior).

  i think when we leave jehovah's witnesses, there is this time where we look back, and it is absolutely killer.

  damn, what a waste.

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  boyzone

  So many of us were taught or ar still taught to see ourselves as "ugly" because we couldn't measure up to the Watchtower's relentless workload or the constant scrutinizing from the congregation to be an "approved associate".

  Some of us still think the WT are right and we're a failed JW, we just weren't good enough. We're still ugly.

  THEY ARE WRONG.

  We ARE beautiful! Every single one of us! Look what we've done! Look what we've achieved!

  All of us have walked away (for whatever reason) from a high control religious authority that demanded total obedience or be punished. Don't you think that took courage? It did, it took a huge amount of courage.

  And if you were thrown out? Now you know the WT were frauds, how much courage do you think it takes not to go crawling back like they want you to? How much pressure have you withstood from close family and friends? How much "encouragement" from the elders have you seen for what it really is? How much false gossip and backbiting have you endured? How much real, uncondition love do you show now compared to when you were a JW?

  All of us should take a look at ourselves and be enormously proud of what we've achieved. Every single one of us, without exception, have shown more courage and integrity than any JW sitting at the Kingdom Hall right now.

  So don't ever let them convince us we're still "ugly". We're not. We're stunningly beautiful and we should be proud to show it. Just like Susan Boyle. She knew she wasn't a physical beauty but she had a hidden beauty that she wanted to share. Now its our turn. Lets share our hidden beauty with the world, our love, our courage, our integrity, or self-worth, ourselves.

  Show them how beautiful you really are by living your life to the full, in other words, let your heart SING!
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  What Are the GREATEST SINS One Can Commit in the WT World?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the greatest, i'll bet, is apostasy.. but what about others?

  what is someone has committed adultery?

  or even murder?

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  boyzone

  WTWizard -Excellent post! Spot on.