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  Not Born-in, Not converted as adult. The In-Betweens

  by Lady Lee in

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  i think some of us get lost somewhere in the middle.. my kids knew nothing else but the jw lifestyle.

  they could only guess what holidays were like.. my jw husband converted when he was 20 an adult...a young adult but still an adult.

  he wasn't influenced by his parents.

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  I was 14 when my mum and dad were baptized together. I was the youngest of 4 kids and my older siblings had all left home so I remember christmas, birthdays etc. That all stopped when mum and dad started studying.

  The worst thing was that our close family was now divided. Mum and dad spent so much time at meetings, conventions and socialising with their new "friends" that they had little time for me. I was left by myself alot and I felt like a "truth" orphan. So despite being a good girl really, I went off the rails a bit at 15 and started to drink heavily, my grades slipped at school and I started to play truant. By the time I was 18 I was pregnant with my first child and living away from home. Then came the knock at the door.......

  To this day I can clearly remember why I listened when the knock came. It was because I KNEW my mum and dad would be pleased. Their lack of attention during my teenage years made me want to do what made them happy, then perhaps they would pay attention to me.

  Its the old adage...if you can't beat them, join them.
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  Current elder explains the college situation to me

  by changeling in

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  while he says he has not seen a letter ,he tells me that at the last visit the co told his body of elders pretty much what is being said here on jwd.. he gave some examples: .

  1- if a young ms/pioneer, attends college and lives at home, would he and his elder dad be deleted?

  the young man is "spiritually focused".. 2- an elder's daughter attends college in the hopes of having a good job in the future and dad promotes this course of action.

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  I don't understand this move. They get rid of the group study partly because they're losing elders due to burn out, then they are ready to delete elders if they support kids going to college.

  Why would they bother trying to make it esy to retain elders in one move, only to make up an excuse to get rid of them in another? Doesn't make sense.

  Mind you, does anything they do make sense?
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  Will someone please scan the Prolcaimer's book on Beth Sarim?

  by dawg in

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  i just want to read the lies firsthand, can someone please give me the page with the beth sarim information and/or any information from the book that has lies?

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  Chapter 7 page 84 picture caption and footnote says;

  "House

  ofthePrinces"

  Brother Rutherford had a severe case of pneumonia after his release from unjust imprisonment in 1919. Thereafter, he had only one good lung. In the 1920’s, under a doctor’s treatment, he went to San Diego, California, and the doctor urged him to spend as much time as possible there. From 1929 on, Brother Rutherford spent the winters working at a San Diego residence he had named Beth-Sarim. Beth-Sarim was built with funds that were a direct contribution for that purpose. The deed, which was published in full in "The Golden Age" of March 19, 1930, conveyed this property to J. F. Rutherford and thereafter to the Watch Tower Society.

  Concerning Beth-Sarim, the book "Salvation," published in 1939, explains: "The Hebrew words ‘Beth Sarim’ mean ‘House of the Princes’; and the purpose of acquiring that property and building the house was that there might be some tangible proof that there are those on earth today who fully believe God and Christ Jesus and in His kingdom, and who believe that the faithful men of old will soon be resurrected by the Lord, be back on earth, and take charge of the visible affairs of earth."

  A few years after Brother Rutherford’s death, the board of directors of the Watch Tower Society decided to sell Beth-Sarim. Why? "The Watchtower" of December 15, 1947, explained: "It had fully served its purpose and was now only serving as a monument quite expensive to keep; our faith in the return of the men of old time whom the King Christ Jesus will make princes in ALL the earth (not merely in California) is based, not upon that house Beth-Sarim, but upon God’s Word of promise."

  [Footnote]

  At the time, it was believed that faithful men of old times, such as Abraham, Joseph, and David, would be resurrected before the end of this system of things and would serve as "princes in all the earth," in fulfillment of Psalm 45:16. This view was adjusted in 1950, when further study of the Scriptures indicated that those earthly forefathers of Jesus Christ would be resurrected after Armageddon.—See "The Watchtower," November 1, 1950, pages 414-17.
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  Will someone please scan the Prolcaimer's book on Beth Sarim?

  by dawg in

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  i just want to read the lies firsthand, can someone please give me the page with the beth sarim information and/or any information from the book that has lies?

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  snap!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-08-08 WT Study (GUIDANCE)

  by blondie in

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  god's guidance = only the guidance of the wts/fds/gb.

  when, though, do we need that guidance?

  god's guidance = wts/fds/gb guidance.

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  Thanks Blondie excellent insightful comments yet again. Love the way you "translate" the WTspeak in what they're really saying, eg Jehovahs guidance = WT guidance.

  well done!
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  Have you ever caught Elders in compromising situations?

  by Cheetos in

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  i ran into two of them at a (r) rated violent movie during a very boring assembly once, i knew them and they knew me i didn't give a dam and they knew it, they seen me go out and i seen them go out of the theate so we were all even and grinning all the way back to events center.

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  An elder and his wife were photographed at a local nightclub draped in christmas tinsel. They would have got away with it but the nightclub owners had a website and posted the photos of the party the night before.

  Of course nothing was done, he was an elder in good standing after all But the teens had a field day with it!
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  Name Things JWs Would Do If The GB Told Them To

  by minimus in

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  this could be veryyyyyy interestinggggggg.

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  I once asked a sister would she give up tea and coffee if the the GB asked her to. She said "Of course, why give up the chance of everlasting life just for the sake of a drink"

  How screwed is that!
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  What do you think about small children commenting in the meetings?

  by asilentone in

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  You know, all this isn't about training kids "in the way of the truth" at all. Its about parents massaging their egos's in the eyes of the congregation.

  Its so that dad can be seen to be presiding over his household in a fine manner to get privileges, and mum can be seen as a submissive supporting act to dad.

  Its all just a big act - with the self-esteem of the kids as the price.

  I know. I WAS that parent.
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  At last! Somebody more screwed up than any Jehovah's Witness: David Icke

  by Terry in

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  david ickefrom wikipedia, the free encyclopedia(redirected from david icke) .

  interested in contributing to wikipedia?

  jump to: navigation, searchdavid vaughan icke, pronounced /a?k/ to rhyme with "like," (born april 29, 1952) is a british writer and public speaker who has devoted himself since 1990 to researching "who and what is really controlling the world.

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  I live near Ryde on the Isle of Wight and he keeps a very low profile here. He's definately not a local celebrity but more the village idiot.
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  When did you last attend a meeting at the Kingdom Hall?

  by Thechickennest in

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  April 2007. Look forward to never stepping foot in that building again.