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  Field ministry blooper reel:

  by Awakened07 in

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  -did you ever stuff up your presentation while going door-to-door?.

  i remember one beautiful summer day, me and my 'partner' were slowly approaching a man working in his garden.

  it was warm, it was sunny, it was beautiful, it was peaceful and quiet - you might say it was "paradise".

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  metaspy

  I was at a door and the brother I was with said:
  "Hi we've been going around to you and your BIBLE, talking about your NEIGHBORS."
  The person just shut the door slowly with a confused look.
  It took a couple seconds to realize why.
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  and so it goes...

  by metaspy in

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  this morning i started this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/147355/1.ashx.

  now i shall post the follow-up.. as i predicted, my mom would come with elders in tow to have a conversation.. actually, she threw me for a loop at first.

  no elders with her.. she had them wait a half an hour then she let them in.. thus i couldn't reject the whole lot of them at the door, she was their way in.. secondly, she brought the elders from the nearby hall, not the ones who know me.. the whole time i thought she would go for someone who she knows can dominate my thinking, but instead she went with the unknown.. .

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  metaspy

  Well, they have a new school to go to in the upcoming year.
  Probably more deception, more info on how to handle crap from people like me.
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  and so it goes...

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i started this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/147355/1.ashx.

  now i shall post the follow-up.. as i predicted, my mom would come with elders in tow to have a conversation.. actually, she threw me for a loop at first.

  no elders with her.. she had them wait a half an hour then she let them in.. thus i couldn't reject the whole lot of them at the door, she was their way in.. secondly, she brought the elders from the nearby hall, not the ones who know me.. the whole time i thought she would go for someone who she knows can dominate my thinking, but instead she went with the unknown.. .

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  metaspy

  Junction Guy,
  I did know that my mom would deny, but I figured the elders would know something.
  nothing seems to touch them.
  What is it called .... cognitive dissonance ?? [still shaking my head thinking about it]
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  and so it goes...

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i started this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/147355/1.ashx.

  now i shall post the follow-up.. as i predicted, my mom would come with elders in tow to have a conversation.. actually, she threw me for a loop at first.

  no elders with her.. she had them wait a half an hour then she let them in.. thus i couldn't reject the whole lot of them at the door, she was their way in.. secondly, she brought the elders from the nearby hall, not the ones who know me.. the whole time i thought she would go for someone who she knows can dominate my thinking, but instead she went with the unknown.. .

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  metaspy

  A&W, I just need to reread all the facts.
  I hurt my head to not be able to nail these guys down to any facts.
  Many times elder #1 would say, "that was in the 70s, not now".
  I wanted to call "bull****" but I couldn't without proof. I didn't actually let them see the CD.
  I figured that would be instant DF for purchasing it, and I am trying to avoid that.
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  and so it goes...

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i started this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/147355/1.ashx.

  now i shall post the follow-up.. as i predicted, my mom would come with elders in tow to have a conversation.. actually, she threw me for a loop at first.

  no elders with her.. she had them wait a half an hour then she let them in.. thus i couldn't reject the whole lot of them at the door, she was their way in.. secondly, she brought the elders from the nearby hall, not the ones who know me.. the whole time i thought she would go for someone who she knows can dominate my thinking, but instead she went with the unknown.. .

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  metaspy

  This morning I started this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/147355/1.ashx
  
  Now I shall post the follow-up.
  As I predicted, my mom would come with elders in tow to have a conversation.
  Actually, she threw me for a loop at first. No elders with her.
  She had them wait a half an hour then she let them in.
  Thus I couldn't reject the whole lot of them at the door, she was their way in.
  Secondly, she brought the elders from the nearby hall, not the ones who know me.
  the whole time I thought she would go for someone who she knows can dominate my thinking, but instead she went with the unknown.
  
  So conversation with my mom went something like this (I kept silent mostly):
  "You don't love Jehovah"
  "You owe it to Jehovah to keep trying"
  "I could have killed myself when you were younger, but I stayed alive to keep you in the truth"
  "How do you think Jah feels about you leaving His organization?"
  Somewhere in there she hit a cord that made me start crying (d**n). She knew she was winning.
  Just after I cleared up my tears, in come the elders.
  
  they now deny everything. EVERYTHING!
  All evidence from Barbara's CD - never happened.
  catch phrases of the elders: IF that is true... If that happened...
  I even pointed to some of the most vilifying evidence I could bring out - elder response: you can't trust the world.
  they went so far as to say that some of the evidence was forged.
  
  Apparently today's talk was on loyalty. That fit in nicely.
  also, elder #2 was the one to give it - coincidence? I think not.
  
  After that mental beating, I need to go and refresh my memory of why I made the decision to leave in the first place.
  I can't remember, too many mismatching facts...
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  Post YOUR future Watchtower Qoutes 2050 and beyond!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
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  watchtower 2055 feb 1st "theodore jarcz the last member of the anionted died today when his robotic heart and kidneys gave out, he was 130 years old.".

  watchtower 2060 feb 1st "the faithful great crowd class has through careful study found that "this generation" refers not to the annionted but to the "pepsi generation" who will not die out before armegedon.".

  watchtower 2090 feb 1st "this generation refers to the robotic generation of 2040 which will not power down till the great tribulation arrives.".

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  metaspy

  Watchtower 2050: Governing body decides to release two watchtower/awake mags a year! (one for public one for study)
  
  Watchtower 2070: Increasing placements and donations by using violence - a 3 article series.
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  hardest conversation of my life

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".

  those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".

  i have a hard time standing up to my mother.

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  metaspy

  THANK YOU ALL!!
  
  I feel a lot better about the situation.
  I shall let you know how things go today - I am sure my mom will drop by with some reinforcements.
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  hardest conversation of my life

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".

  those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".

  i have a hard time standing up to my mother.

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  metaspy

  Get you DF'd? Have a party.
  thank you jgnat, you made me laugh.
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  hardest conversation of my life

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".

  those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".

  i have a hard time standing up to my mother.

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  metaspy

  does anyone have a spare back bone I can borrow?
  you have a lot more confidence in me than I do.
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  hardest conversation of my life

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".

  those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".

  i have a hard time standing up to my mother.

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  metaspy

  R's husband - that is where they want to change my mind, discredit my line of thinking, discredit my reasons.
  then they can say - see you are being stupid, just come back and follow what we tell you to do.
  Otherwise they will say - you have no "real" reasons for leaving, you just wanted to go and made up something.