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  First missed memorial

  by metaspy in

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  2. experiences

  this past weekend (as we all know) was the memorial for jws.. this year marked a huge step for me.. i didn't go.

  ever since my mom got baptized, i think i have gone every year.. .

  when my mom asked if i went, i simply told her no.. i had gone over my aunt's house and didn't attend the memorial.. she gave me an earful, but i didn't find it intimidating.. .

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  metaspy

  This past weekend (as we all know) was the memorial for JWs.
  This year marked a huge step for me.
  I didn't go
  
  Ever since my mom got baptized, I think I have gone every year.
  
  when my mom asked if I went, I simply told her no.
  I had gone over my aunt's house and didn't attend the memorial.
  She gave me an earful, but I didn't find it intimidating.
  
  [-passing another milestone-]
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  What Injustices Did You Deal With From Congregation Elders ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all i want to say at the outset , that this thread is only about elders who committed injustices.

  i realize there are many ex-elders on the board here , and as a disclaimer i want to say this information is not meant to offend any of you who served in that capacity .

  i think most all of you had pure , sincere motives in serving the congregations .

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  metaspy

  I have nothing as shocking as what has already been discussed here.
  I have been mistreated by the elders.
  my story
  
  Sorry I took the lazy way out - it was easier than reposting the info.
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  Long Time Lurker....Posting 1st time..Thank you....

  by 1144 in

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  2. friends

  olah.... .

  this is my story if you care to read...thank you.....all make my long story short.

  ive always been a beer drinking pot smoking fool...w/occasional trip or 10.. .

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  metaspy

  In regards to "prodigal son", I think it depends on the hall.
  one hall I was in would do Disassociation by action, which was basically DF'ing them.
  whereas another hall took the route of "don't talk about it and come to meetings and its ok" stance.
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  New start

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been a while since i have posted here.. i thought i would post some good news.

  a progress report of sorts.. .

  my new job is going great.

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  metaspy

  Actually JWdaughter,
  if you read my story then you would know about Zelda.
  Just know it is a sad story (and kind of long).
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  New start

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been a while since i have posted here.. i thought i would post some good news.

  a progress report of sorts.. .

  my new job is going great.

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  metaspy

  It has been a while since I have posted here.
  I thought I would post some good news. A progress report of sorts.
  
  My new job is going great. I love the work and the people I work with.
  I feel very comfortable with the job and the atmosphere of the workplace.
  A great thing too, is I have gotten a lot of compliments on my work.
  Yay!
  
  I recently talked with my dad. It was a very good conversation.
  I told him about me leaving the JWs. I even gave him the link to my story.
  He had never heard the Zelda story, so it was an eye opener to him.
  Plus, it opened the way for further discussion about things that happened in my childhood.
  It seems that my mom (and brother) have deceived me on a regular basis about my dad and what happened.
  
  He never was interested in JWs and wasn't given apostate literature.
  Instead, he did his own research and found books about JWs by ex-JWs.
  
  I have also been trying to associate more with my dad's side of the family.
  I recently spent a day with my grandfather. We played cribbage and shoveled snow.
  It is nice to have someone who cares. There is still a little barrier there.
  But it is my fault, I have no trust. I fear trusting others still.
  
  I have started looking for a girl friend (not Zelda).
  I have had a couple potentials, but nothing has worked out.
  
  On the whole, life has been looking up.
  Thanks for your support JWD!
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  Scans of Watchtower books at Google books and Archive.org

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following editions of watchtower books can be found and downloaded at books.google.com and archive.org .

  this is what i found, but sometimes its hard to find them because they are not well indexed.

  hope you don't mind the edit - lee.

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  The following editions of Watchtower books can be found and downloaded at books.
  google.com and archive.org:Millennial Dawn Volume 1 The Plan of the Ages - 135th thousand Edition 1886
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 1 the plan of the ages 1.546.000 edition 1905
  Google books: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 1 Plan of the ages 3.108.000 edition 1909
  Archive.org: Millennial Dawn Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 175th thousand edition 1902
  Google books: Studies in the scriptures Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 1.174.000 edition 1911
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 2.023.000 edition 1927
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 3 Thy Kingdom come 1.105.000 edition 1911
  Archive.org: Millennial Dawn Volume 4 the day of vengeance 38th thousand edition 1897
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 5 the atonement 30th thousand edition 1899
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 5 the atonement 45th thousand edition 1899
  Archive.org: Canadian libraries Studies in the Scriptures Volume 5 The Atonement 116.000 edition 1910
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 6 The New Creation 66.000 edition 1909
  Archive.org :Studies in the Scriptures Volume 7 The Finished Mystery 815.000 edition 1918
  Google books: Tabernacle Shadows of the better Sacrifices 1899 Edition
  Google books: The Bible Versus the Evolution Theory 1898 old theology quaterly missing page 3
  Google books: Harp Gods 675.000 edition 1921
  Google Books: Harp Gods 800.000 edition 1921
  Google Books: Overland monthly multiple issues with Russell and Rutherford articles at Archive.org
  Deliverance 2.247.500 edition 1926 Archive.org djavu file and tif scan
  This is what I found, but sometimes its hard to find them because they are not well indexed.
  
  
  I have done the best I could with what I could read.
  Punctuation would be helpful as I couldn't always tell what went together and what didnt. Sorry if I got it wrong.
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  Big Announcement on next Service meeting

  by The Lone Ranger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there seems to be a very important announcement this coming weeking on the next service meeting, forme it will be on wednesday 30th jan.. during the last 2 meetings they have asked that every batized jw be at that meeting and even to tell others who might not have heard the annoucement.. anyone here have any ideas i wouldn't be surprised if they are changing meeting times and arrangments...less meeting at is !.

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  Look how intricate the crown of thorns is on his head.
  Let us think about the JW teaching about the cross.
  What is one major reason they say it didn't happen? Too much trouble for the Romans.
  Yet, weren't they the ones who gave him the crown of thorns?
  that looks a hell of a lot harder to make than nailing 2 pieces of wood together.
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  Did You Ever See this in Your Congregation ? Mind Control - By Hassan

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in steve hassan's book , " combatting cult mind control" it states : " a famous experiment in conformity by dr. solomon asch demonstrated that people will doubt their own perceptions if they are put in a social situation where it appears that the most confident people in the group are all giving the wrong answer to a question.

  another psychologist , stanley milgram , tested people for obedience to authority and found that over 90 percent of his subjects would obey orders, even if they believed that doing so caused physical suffering to another person.

  milgram wrote : " the essence of obedience consists in the fact that a person comes to view himself as the instrument for carrying out another person's wishes, and therefore no longer regards himself as responsible for his own actions .

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  metaspy

  I have seen it happen in many cases.
  Almost always by elders not wanting to loose power.
  
  one that comes to mind is an elder was "committing adultery" by JWs standards.
  An MS in my old hall found out and confronted him.
  The MS gave him 2 or 3 weeks to confess.
  in that time, the wily elder had the MS removed for some reason (I didn't find out).
  Then when the MS turned in the elder - it looked like he was out for vengeance.
  The elders didn't listen to him at that time, but later the elder was caught.
  Funny thing is, the MS didn't get his title back...
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  This will help us understand where other's are coming from (hopefully!)

  by Mincan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  everyone should take this test and post their results.. everyone has a direction to their flow of energy, a way of gathering information, a way of coming to decisions, and a way that they live their day-to-day life.

  put your preferences together and you are either introverted/extroverted, sensing or intuitive, thinking or feeling, and judging or perceiving.

  everyone will fit into one of these 16 categories you can thus create.

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  metaspy

  Your Type is
  INTJ
  Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
  Strength of the preferences %
  100 12 38 44
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  WT Library 2007 Available as ISO

  by doinmypart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have the 2007 cd available as an iso image.

  i can ftp it to someone.

  reply on this topic or pm me.

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  metaspy

  we could also create a .torrent file and have all of us seed it.