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  Crazy Kids

  by mrsjones5 in

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  just about a half an hour ago i'm in my kitchen cooking dinner and i look out my window.

  my kitchen is in the back of my house and i can see the large retention pond from my window.

  what do i see but four kids (2 girls and 2 boys) around my oldest son's age out on the ice.

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  ... that's reminds me something,
  but PFFFFFFFFFF too long to tell
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  My Bethel experience

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  because of the length of this, it will be done in two parts.

  part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months ( they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

  because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 60!

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  Too funy ... (the whole JWlike explanation)

  
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  What a Birthday thus far, found my molestors mother today

  by Apostate Kate in

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  what a day.

  today is my birthday.

  my adopted senior told me they were best friends.

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  free2think : I'm glad you can see the irony in this situation

  Yep ...

  Happy birthday kate !!!
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  Is it brainwashing?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've had a bit of a semantic tousle with a member of this board on whether the coercive techniques used by the wtbts to obtain and retain members is "brainwashing".

  i say "brainwashing" is not a good description of what goes on, i prefer "mind control", or coercive and deceptive techniques.

  he argued to call it something less than "brainwashing" is to water down the destructive effects of the wts on it's members and former members.

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  ... JGNAT : yep Mind control comes first it uses brainwashing
  'Cause Mind control don't only use brainwashing (but also fear of retaliation or any personal or global perk/benefit and so on ...)
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  My Bethel experience

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of the length of this, it will be done in two parts.

  part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months ( they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

  because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 60!

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  reading yours and Ithinkisee'sexperience it looks like it was "the world in the world"
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  Where would we be now if there was never a concept of God?

  by dh in

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  2. friends

  if (for the sake of argument for those who believe in god) there was no god, and no human being who ever lived had ever come up with or even had a concept of god or a higher being.

  where do you think we as human beings would be today.

  what do you think our history would be like, and our future?

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  To go further:

  So from that the only difference in between unbelievers and believers is:

  • I can’t believe in God (the kind of God who should respond to our wills the wayI’m expecting)
  • I can believe in God because anyway there something bigger and it’s all about what we can agree with as being good enough to be understood as God's reason to just do things the way he knows will be relevant.
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  To a former family member...

  by Confession in

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  to my former family member.

  heres my last communique.

  we have reached the big december.

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  Why do they do that?

  by nonamegiven in

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  my "best friend" who will no longer talk to me because i'm df'd is serving temporary service ay brooklyn bethel.

  he and his wife were to be there for a month or two a year or so ago.

  when they were just a few days from the end of thier stay, they got a letter asking them if they could extend it for another month or so.

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  What do you think?

  it's sad ...
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  Bridezilla!!! This is as funny as it gets!!

  by Sparkplug in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10vmj-8xga4.

  i found this on youtube and i have about busted a gut watching it.

  i sure hope i never run into a bride doing this.

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  SparkPlug : Raf that little girl is sooooooooooooooooo cute. Makes me want another dozen...Not.

  ... ... (you're talking about a Job, I only got one and well it's enough - in knowing that I've been lucky with this one, very easy to deal with) ... but I won't be against grandchildren now
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  My Personal Experiences thus far

  by Ken O in

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  2. experiences

  i was brought up around the "truth" as a child.

  my parents studied some then later after they were divorced, we (mom, sis and i) moved in with my grandparents, who were inactive witnesses.

  though inactive, they still touted all the wts lingo and doctrine.

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  RAF

  ... you'll find ways, now or later (this religion is a mess and at some point people got enough) you may have more chance with the kids if you can keep them aware (not against - just giving hints from time to time)

  also being apostate have nothing to do with not listening to the JW doctrine (totally screwed doctrine BTW - they are the apostates/anti-Christ in facts regarding what the bible is saying and it's not very hard to prove) - Check the best of on this site you'll find materiel to spread hints.