also for instance : JW's who apply the WTBS's doctrine which lead to suffer because of their false doctrines (lies) ... looks like masochists ... (but they are not masochist they are just misleaded - they think that they suffer for the truth or ... salvation and in this last case they are working for themselves if it leads to make someone eles to suffer - that's when they are against the real doctrine).
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Christians are masochists
by onacruse inpaul: "we also rejoice in our sufferings" (romans 5:3).
jesus: "rejoice and be glad [when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you]" (matthew 5:12).
historical: "the apostles left the sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace" (acts 5:41).
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Christians are masochists
by onacruse inpaul: "we also rejoice in our sufferings" (romans 5:3).
jesus: "rejoice and be glad [when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you]" (matthew 5:12).
historical: "the apostles left the sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace" (acts 5:41).
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Masochism is when you like to suffer. (something that please you)
the christian's goal (by nature) is not about pleasure, it’s about forgetting about ourselves when needed (a good reason). It means it’s better to suffer for justice/truth than being happy from injustice/lies (because then you rely on nothing good).
On the spiritual matter Chirst says the reverse:
Matthew 11: 28. "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29. "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30. "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." -
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God-shaped hole?
by tetrapod.sapien in... or whole of god?.
wonderless form?.
... or form of wonder?.
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ok ... From the bible perspective for instance ? Ephesian 4:6 "God ... is over all and through all and in all."
Essence has no hole !!! ...
Now if you want to shape it : through all and in all
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Hi I am new - Lovelylilly's husband
by ROC inmy wife has been keeping me up to date on what goes on in the forum.
i finally decided to join myself.
i am not as knowledgeable in the scriptures as my wife.
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Welcome !!!
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What Would You Like to be Written on Your Tombstone?
by Warlock insince i have a rather morbid sense of humor, and none of us is going to see armageddon................................ what would you like to be written on your tombstone?
i'll start.. "buried face down...........and you know the rest".
"his last word were..............boy, i'm getting hot!".
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You are standing on my hand.
Warlock
... On my tombstone if any? SEE YA FOLKS !
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New to the board
by KICKED OUT ini am 26 , i was baptised at 12 (way to young to make that choice) df'd at 13, reproved at 16, and then finnally df'd for good at 19. i have been forced to leave behind my family and friends, but other than that have never been happier.
i just found this board and i am very happy i have, it is great councelling, and look forward to many great discussions.
thanks in advance!!!
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Welcome !!!
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Go Girl !!!
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I'm struggling with God's existence -- and here is why.
by Morocco inin mark 13:30, matt.
24:34, and matt.
23:36 the bible makes the following statement: .
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Qcmbr ... ...
Don't worry Morocco... our end will come anyway (we will all die as human anyway) It could be now for me for instance ... dying is a part of our life ... but not the end as a spirit
if you're a good bro for your bro there is nothing to scare about ..
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUNI!!!
by fullofdoubtnow inhappy birthday juni!!!.
have a really wonderful day.
linda & trev.
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happy Bithday J !!!
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cult personality type?
by Mysterious inanother thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.
i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.
i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?
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I couldn't get the page of this URL www.keirsey.com (???)
so I went to this one : http://similarminds.com/jung.htmlJung Test Results
Extroverted (E) 51.43% Introverted (I) 48.57%
Intuitive (N) 63.33% Sensing (S) 36.67%
Thinking (T) 68.97% Feeling (F) 31.03%
Perceiving (P) 57.58% Judging (J) 42.42%Your type is: ENTP
ENTP - "Inventor". Enthusiastic interest in everything and always sensitive to possibilities. Non-conformist and innovative. 3.2% of the total population.
The first time I thougt about doing that test if was because of post of LT on JWD ... but on an other "site" than the one proposed here to get the test done ... I wanted to know if I would have the same results and it is the same.
Well I guess I'm ok with the results - most of the good sides but also most of the bad once too (you can't get have everything anyway !!!)