also, maybe you'll get something to think about this :
- the most trashfull prostitute can find someone who really loves her
- the most higher on moral about sex abstention before marriage can finally end up with a man who only needs an householder (and will find whatever else he needs somewhere else).
the only questions left is : Is it love? for who? for What?
The reason why I only stand on feelings is because therefore It's only about my feelings (no regrets - did I really had the choice? or this is what I've wanted) whatever will happen.
Love and making love is a gift (you might be wrong on who you gave it too - well take it as an experience) but it doesn't diminishe the gift nor who you are. Whoever will judge you on that do not even worth you to give him/her a bit of attention.your body = your right - I mean if you don't want to have sex, don't (it's not about you need to be married before or not, you might realised that even married you may not want to have sex even with your husband anyway). the thing is just that you don't want to (there is something to do about it or not) but whenever you force someone or are forced about that it's a rape somehow.
Now if you want to ... well you still have to take care of some stuff but certainely not : will he marry me at the end? what if the guy you love dies before? life is short ... love is good ... sex is cool (just don't put to much weight into it to get what you want or about losing whatever when love is involved at least on your side - you'll never really know about the other one - people change - and you will change either)
Integrity is also about not lying to yourself (and well take responsability is just matter of maturity - which suppose to go through experience).
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32Is it SABOTAGE or HONESTY
by BCberean ini think i just lost another man because of the 'sex within the confines of marriage' issue.. my sister said i should wait til i have them hooked before i make it clear where i stand.. doesn't seem quite honest to me......but....i'm wondering if i'm somehow sabotaging the relationship.. .
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all Watchtower material contains coded messages.
by under_believer inunder_believer has joined the mason/illuminati/shapeshifting lizardman conspiracy theory crowd!
everything the watchtower writes for witness consumption has a subtext.
there is a difference between what they actually write, which anyone in the public can read, and what they actually mean.
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Yep !!!
about the subject I've actually was really satisfied when my sister after the last assemblee (last week-end - which only went to see what's next - I guess just in case they would give a new date !!!) realised how codified (means that she was able to translate) their messages was ... everything is evil but the Org (do not believe wathever people say against us - put all your time an interest into the Org's/Gods service - forget about everything else it's all bad, bad, bad) ... they are the only channel of God (while talking about Jesus only using him to actually take his place in peoples spirit).And well she realised that nothing in all this is supposed to lead to pay attention about LOVE ...
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Is it SABOTAGE or HONESTY
by BCberean ini think i just lost another man because of the 'sex within the confines of marriage' issue.. my sister said i should wait til i have them hooked before i make it clear where i stand.. doesn't seem quite honest to me......but....i'm wondering if i'm somehow sabotaging the relationship.. .
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It looks like he is giving you an ultimatum (not fair regarding the subject = your integrity) what's next?
But, but, but : how long is this relationship running? 1 or a few weeks / 3 months / 6 months / 1 year / more ?
you don't really have to answer those questions here but (think about it) :
Are you still virgin?
Why do you stand on this kind of integrity? (is it to make sure that he wants to marry you before you give it (that's an ultimatum back to what's next? but from you) - or is it because of your morality on the matter? or anything else?
Also :Marriage is not a real guaranty - you may want to think about it - but your integrity is somehow - he/they might want to think about it
Take care there was a time when this kind of integrety was well appreciated, in knowing that men usualy found ways to get what they wanted if needed somewhere else anyway - now most women do too ... So knowing how you fit together in the matter before marriage can finally be something you/him/they want to know about. (but I guess wanting to be sure he really loves you is still more important - than getting married)
Now if you get this kind of reaction with every boyfriends you had - Question : what else (if anything) are you old school about? (maybe you make them think that they will have too much to deal with way before to know if they really love you (and by then want to marry you)
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Could the WTBTS get JWs to kill?
by serotonin_wraith ini'm not saying those in power would even contemplate doing this, but i wonder just how far jws would go to obey their leaders.
would they go as far as to kill, if they thought god had given that message to 'his people'?.
it would probably take years of subtle changes in their message so that it didn't come as a big shock.
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... ... (topic and answers)
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Holiday pics of the Rockies
by Simon inwe had a trip round the rockies a couple of weeks ago.
is there anywhere more picturesque than this?!.
i still can't believe we live just hours from this .... .
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Humm ... lucky you !
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Are Your Morals The Same As When You Were A Witness?
by minimus ini guess that i can say, from a biblical viewpoint, anyone that practices "fornication", having sex without being married, would be "immoral".
other than, i don't lie or cheat or steal or even kill anyone else!
do you view yourself a "moral" or "immoral" person and why?
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I don't think I ever really had a moral ... only feelings about things
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Any Stephen King fans??
by lola28 ini'm just wondering if any of you are sk fans, i just started to read the dark tower books, i began with the second book "the drawing of the three" and have not read the first one, so far so good.
just wondering how many of you are sk fans.. lola.
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Not a fan ... but the novel "big bazar" from his book "dreams and nightmares" for instance ... really cracked me up (too funy at the end)
to the point I've read to my sister (since she doesn't like to read) instead of watching a movie -
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IS IT FAIR TO PAY THE SAME DEBT TWICE?? Divine Justice...
by Terry inthinking out loud.... .
justice.. topics that need discussing.
justice is getting what you deserve.
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You seem to take the position that the concrete is better in all cases than the abstract. I, however, disagree.
voilà ... (opinion)
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Do You Have "Spiritual" Children?
by compound complex indear nurturing and caring friends,.
apart from religion - if that is where you are at this time in your personal development - do you have younger companions whom you view as "spiritual children"?
some whom you watch after and advise [with prudence and caution, of course], whose successful life course is of intense concern to you?.
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OY ... I was totally off topic (really didn't understand the question actually) ... so the answer is no I don't have spiritual children
And it's cool to read that some of you do have spiritual Children BTW
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Will Races Disappear?
by nvrgnbk inas the world becomes a smaller and smaller place, due to advances in technology, there is increased opportunity for persons of different races and cultures to meet and start families.. will the the differences between the races start to disappear as a result?.
do you believe this would be a positive or negative development?.
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positive .. but we might want to keep a few sample of pure species that we can show in a zoo (not that positive) but we are curious
Sorry I'm on kidding mode.