Posts by RAF

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What's Your Favorite Junk Food?

by minimus in

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when i wanna be bad, i love a 99 cent double cheeseburger from macdonalds.

What do you think Jesus meant...

by Newborn in

...when he said "the one that has endured to the end will be saved"?.

thanks for your thoughts.. /newborn.

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RAF

Well the bible is neither complex nor simple … it’s only “challenging” … it all depends on who is reading it (his/her past regarding his life and this book) and the state of his heart regarding everything (not only him/her – because everything has to do with him/her in being a part of everything).
The more you intellectualised the bible, the more it’s confusing to contradictory (being intelligent / smart is not the key of this book – and it’s written in it – it doesn’t help just as well as human wisdom is not divine wisdom …) God is Charity (translated into love in the NWT – I guess on purpose to confuse twist its meaning regarding God and what it means - cause love is not precise enough to explain what kind of love it is all about).
The only think which helps to understand this book, is to adhere to the main principle, (love others, as yourself, as God – as if we are all the same = all one) and this principle is symbolised and personified by Christ – the UNIC : principle - the head - the master - the way, the truth, live … = the foundation (IT IS THE BEGINNING of the understanding of the story of life, and others – not intellectual understanding but feelings through and from others).
And Christ is about conscience from consciousness by experience (at maturity – for capacity = be able to). You don’t really need that book you just need a heart sensitive to everything.
The Word in being with God as God is its conscience from all consciousness ...

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Why?

by searcher in

why do people feel such a deep need to believe that some sort of creator/god is in control of their lives?

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i have never understood this.

RAF

I'm not really going to answer your question (so many answers to that, from millards of people with the same or different believes)
But when I've read your question I've asked myself (again - cause it is not the first time) what if I've never heard about GOD in my entire life? I still can't tell for real since I've heard about it a bit too much ... but it was other's once conceptions of God ... Again WHAT IS GOD?
Most of definitions of God seems very personified as HUMANLIKE and IT doesn't match with the idea of GOD (to me) which have to be something which never loses in any case (physically and spiritually) that's why at the end (I mean at this point of my life) I can't see GOD otherwise physically than EVERYTHING (the essence of everything = shared in everything) and spiritually as THE SPIRIT OF DISINTESTED LOVE (for everything = AGAPE = CHARITY = SHARED TO SHARE ANY WAY) And since as an individual, I am a part of everything with my free will like everyone (a gift of love otherwise I would be a robot programmed = no personal real feelings) everything have to deal with everything's ways, choices and maturity (leaded by needs and natural to superficial experiences) which is always about sharing (even if the purpose is to use something for or own and only good something or someone is shared/mixed/used for that - but in this case = if for our own and only good doesn't matche with the Spirit of our lets say Father's spirit (GOD) means that we are not its son spiritually when doing that ... (it is a personal choice, but still a right which actually doesn't match with EVERYTHING) it's like to be a bug in the matrix.
Anyway spirituality takes over to be able "to bear and love everything" (we have to be disinterested) by understanding, compassion, acceptance,detachment (and that's why CHRIST means A LOT TO ME) he is truly the image (personification) of GOD to me and somehow saying that knowing and recognising him leads to GOD really talks to my heart ...
LOVE always wins individually and humanly (love of anything good or bad - because that is what motivates individuals in their actions but it doesn't mean that it will lead to win what's the most important at the end - something that we don't know about, since we are not at the end of our lives - when is the end of our spiritual lives? - who knows?) but disintested love never loses globally.
Compared to love (which is as easy as difficult depending on what we personnally love or not) disintested love, understanding, compassion, acceptance, detachment ARE a BIG DEALS they are all not my friends yet (even none of them most of the time), but still I did realised that when I use thoses spiritual means (when I use/call GOD), I (at the very moment I do) do feel a relief to a big sense of freedom (... I tend to forget that most of the time though, that's why I do not use them as often as I should ... but I know it's true) - This GOD is true to me, and this GOD will never lose me. Also goes way further than that to me in experiencing GOD ... But since I feel that being different, with different experiences and different needs ... GOD do know what we need to experience, to adhere to it, to become ONE in ONE spirit all togheter.
Also about HELL (I feel like it could be "regret" something which can consume you by spiritual to material selfdestruction finally) GOD plays his role (IN and OUT ouf US).

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"NO EVIDENCE" for God, and creation? Maybe there is . .

by hooberus in

atheists (however one defines the term) frequently use the term "no evidence" in relation to the existence of god, any type of creation, (especially genesis creation and flood), or most any other theistic claim.

they almost always however claim that their beliefs are "backed by evidence" ; "overwhelming evidence" etc, etc, etc, etc, repeat, etc, repeat, etc.. (their beliefs generally tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the world without needing god).

is there really "no evidence" for god, and creation?

RAF

As an atheist, I will not simply believe anything until I see enough evidence that it is factual. At that point no 'faith' or 'belief' is necessary. It's a fact !!
However, If there's not enough evidence pro or con, I'll own up to the fact that I simply DO NOT KNOW.
I don't think this stance is dogmatic at all.

Find the definition of dogmatic (http://www.answers.com/dogmatic) and you'll see that it is a dogmatic system (means not open to what you don't know or don't care about)

That’s a belief system in fact (the fact that is it your way to believe in something or not or leave it as it is, for something unknown) which is a rather reasonable and also very comfortable belief system when it comes to argue.
That still doesn’t mean that what can’t be backed up by facts is unknown (what is the definition of knowing? it depends on what we are talking about exactly ... How does anyone deal with paranormal for instance? = still unknown as scientific facts, but experienced in live by that individual … = he doesn’t know what exactly, but have something left as something happened, so he knows that this happened and therefore can’t deny it.
That’s when "reasonable" people (but in fact : personally not aware of that kind of experience) will tell you it’s all about imagination – ok (why not but it is only one possibilly out of X ones possible), Also what if several people experienced it together? What do those who did not experience such thing know exactly and why in those cases do they often need to “find” improvable (in fact) scientific or psychological explanations for the/those specific case(s)? … I mean unknown for someone is just unknown from that one or multiple person/people (= your belief system, but applied individually) not for everybody (= you/they don’t know anything about something someone else experienced) so leave it as “UNKNOWN to you” as usually.
That being said ‘since it’s about God in this thread, here again it’s all about definition first: what is God exactly for each one of us (believer or non believer)? Before to get into the very known cliches.
What do we say when a new born baby kid grows up and learns to be able by himself of something at some point (physically and mentally) can’t we say that he did evolve (in both cases)? And what is the evolution process all about, if not that (for the evolutionist for instance from one "unic" cell) isn’t that intelligent "unique" material?
So conceptually there is no difference in between evolutionist and creationist believers ... (but, but, but ... it's all about the details ... that WE ALL don't know about for real). That's when of course any can come up with his own point(s) of view(s) (from what each one learned from a or several religions, or from what they feel),

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Where did it all go wrong?

by THE GLADIATOR in

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being a jehovahs witness is getting easier with each worldly year that passes.

time is not getting shorter but meetings are, along with assemblies.

in my day the closing prayer lasted longer than the whole modern assembly.

RAF

errrr ... I meant : they have messed up so much with the teaching (changes - and nonsense - false prophetie) that they can't really stand on all their bugs ... fading is the last simple way out (but doing it in a subtle way playing the : we are on the last step ... bla, bla, bla)

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Dinosaurs

by billie jean in

being brought up a j.w no one ever gave an accurate description of why the dinosaurs where actually put on the earth by jehovah.

if i ask this question to my parents now they still dont have an answer that makes any sense.

so far ive had .

RAF

Who is Jehovah (or what is Jehovah) ? Sorry I'm almost on kidding mode ...

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Are You Idealistic?

by choosing life in

in the past, i was pretty idealistic.

i believe this is what attracted me to the witnesses' idea of a perfect paradise on earth.

i was a teenager when i first was contacted by them and quite disillusioned with life.

RAF

So, were/are you idealistic? Did it play into your belief in the jws' paradise/utopia?
I am, that's why JWLAND didn't match with me actually !

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Where did it all go wrong?

by THE GLADIATOR in

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being a jehovahs witness is getting easier with each worldly year that passes.

time is not getting shorter but meetings are, along with assemblies.

in my day the closing prayer lasted longer than the whole modern assembly.

RAF

JWLAND is fading slowwwwly in fact

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SEX

by billie jean in

i don't mean to sound crude but ive always wondered what witnesses are allowed to do in their marriage (sex wise) only i always imagined that they wouldn't ever deviate from the 'missionary possition' and what about oral sex, is that allowed ?.

i spoke to an 'on the fence' old friend of mine a while ago he'd recently married and he said that a sister in their congregation had told his wife that anything other than 'missionary' was totaly out, he was angry at this statement and told me he thought it was "a matter of conscience" .

but i'm still curious !

RAF

Back to JWLAND nonsense,
If the verse (don’t remember which one, maybe someone can put it here) they use to say oral sex is a NO NO (lost of seed LOL) well … it does not apply to women ... YEP !!! hummm
But since they seems to care more about what a woman should do to be a good slave to her husband, they don’t bother making the difference. No for the man is no for woman too in this case … PFFFFFFFFFF.
So at the end they come out with sex is for … Oh … but what is it for ? Not for fun ? … But there is a time for everything … NO ? But then I guess they can still say : not for what is due to God (seed – just like blood – since they can’t see what’s so material in there so called spiritual point of views). And What is "love" in all that (the joy to give some good time to the one you share also bad time with) … I ask NOT

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My Guarantee........................

by Warlock in

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i guarantee you, if everyone in the united states were allowed to carry a gun on their hip, people would treat each other with alot more respect.. warlock .

RAF

I guarantee you, if everyone in the United States were allowed to carry a gun on their hip, people would treat each other with alot more respect.
You would still have those who think and those who don't before to act, those who care, and those who don't (about whatever), bold and weak once (and bold doesn't mean armed from head to toes, at all) ... but more simply you have those who respect others (because it is their main principle) and those who don't (armed or not).
What's in our hands doesn't change what's in our heads, but what's in our hands may talk about what's in our head according to what we do with it