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  Grandma passed away this morning

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  many of you read my thread about a jw in the family not visiting his parents or telling family.

  how to contact him.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/128234/1.ashx.

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  RAF

  Sorry (((OnTheWayOut)))
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  Christians are masochists

  by onacruse in

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  paul: "we also rejoice in our sufferings" (romans 5:3).

  jesus: "rejoice and be glad [when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you]" (matthew 5:12).

  historical: "the apostles left the sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace" (acts 5:41).

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  SadEmo : Maybe the closest non-religious word I can use to describe it is optimism

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  Well said ... you forget about the suffering part because it leads to something good ...
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  Christians are masochists

  by onacruse in

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  paul: "we also rejoice in our sufferings" (romans 5:3).

  jesus: "rejoice and be glad [when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you]" (matthew 5:12).

  historical: "the apostles left the sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace" (acts 5:41).

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  also for instance : JW's who apply the WTBS's doctrine which lead to suffer because of their false doctrines (lies) ... looks like masochists ... (but they are not masochist they are just misleaded - they think that they suffer for the truth or ... salvation and in this last case they are working for themselves if it leads to make someone eles to suffer - that's when they are against the real doctrine).
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  Christians are masochists

  by onacruse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  paul: "we also rejoice in our sufferings" (romans 5:3).

  jesus: "rejoice and be glad [when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you]" (matthew 5:12).

  historical: "the apostles left the sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace" (acts 5:41).

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  Masochism is when you like to suffer. (something that please you)

  the christian's goal (by nature) is not about pleasure, it’s about forgetting about ourselves when needed (a good reason). It means it’s better to suffer for justice/truth than being happy from injustice/lies (because then you rely on nothing good).

  On the spiritual matter Chirst says the reverse:
  Matthew 11: 28. "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29. "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30. "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
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  God-shaped hole?

  by tetrapod.sapien in

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  ... or whole of god?.

  wonderless form?.

  ... or form of wonder?.

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  RAF

  ok ... From the bible perspective for instance ? Ephesian 4:6 "God ... is over all and through all and in all."

  Essence has no hole !!! ...

  Now if you want to shape it : through all and in all
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  Hi I am new - Lovelylilly's husband

  by ROC in

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  2. friends

  my wife has been keeping me up to date on what goes on in the forum.

  i finally decided to join myself.

  i am not as knowledgeable in the scriptures as my wife.

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  Welcome !!!
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  What Would You Like to be Written on Your Tombstone?

  by Warlock in

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  since i have a rather morbid sense of humor, and none of us is going to see armageddon................................ what would you like to be written on your tombstone?

  i'll start.. "buried face down...........and you know the rest".

  "his last word were..............boy, i'm getting hot!".

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  You are standing on my hand.

  Warlock

  ... On my tombstone if any? SEE YA FOLKS !
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  New to the board

  by KICKED OUT in

  1. jw
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  i am 26 , i was baptised at 12 (way to young to make that choice) df'd at 13, reproved at 16, and then finnally df'd for good at 19. i have been forced to leave behind my family and friends, but other than that have never been happier.

  i just found this board and i am very happy i have, it is great councelling, and look forward to many great discussions.

  thanks in advance!!!

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  Welcome !!!
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  WhooHoo!!

  by mrsjones5 in

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  good news everybody!

  got through the first interview, moving on to the second interview at the job headquarters!

  yeah!!

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  Go Girl !!!
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  I'm struggling with God's existence -- and here is why.

  by Morocco in

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  in mark 13:30, matt.

  24:34, and matt.

  23:36 the bible makes the following statement: .

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  Qcmbr ... ...

  Don't worry Morocco... our end will come anyway (we will all die as human anyway) It could be now for me for instance ... dying is a part of our life ... but not the end as a spirit

  if you're a good bro for your bro there is nothing to scare about ..