said in different ways here : Semantics can bog us down
But that's what transcending is all about it's not about what you see (cause the tiniest can be the greatest for instance) it's about what we are able to feel without taking ourself too much into consideration (Ego and personnal needs) to be able to appreciate and evaluate the value of everything as a whole
For instance : is death the worst thing that can happen to somebody? I guess not since some people wants to die ... but would they want to die if they would be able to transcend what makes them want to die?
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Spirituality without Faith- Is It Possible?
by nvrgnbk inspirituality without faith.
what would it mean to naturalize spirituality?
how can naturalism inspire spiritual experience and provide us with a satisfying cognitive context within which to address our ultimate concerns?
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I need a girlfriend
by Junction-Guy inafter this past trip to ohio, i have become painfully more aware of how alone i am.
i miss having someone to share my life with.. .
im almost to the point of dating again, yet i have so many obstacles to overcome.. .
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Also complicity (which suppose a real kind of friendship feeling) do not mean that those you share this with, are those you need to have or to see or talk to everyday ... not even every month or year (maybe you already know people who share that with you) you can get closer but it doesn't have to be all of the sudden, neither that it will lead to marriage it's just something very good to feel and to share (but in those relationship you'll know at the end who you really want and who really wants to share more with you).
I do insiste because I'm not sure I'm clear (sorry) all in one what it means is that you shouldn't have a preconcive idea of what you are looking it limits the potential candidates - therefore you shouldn't really looking for anything special (just want to be you - and find people who likes you just the way you are) so it's more about feeling than searching (because maybe you'll change your idea about what you really want from that) - it all about authenticty (not normality - which is maybe not what you really want).
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I need a girlfriend
by Junction-Guy inafter this past trip to ohio, i have become painfully more aware of how alone i am.
i miss having someone to share my life with.. .
im almost to the point of dating again, yet i have so many obstacles to overcome.. .
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RAF
I don't know if you need or not a therapie
but from your ex wife's very nice answer you have an idea of what was wrong1) I was lonely, and heartbroken when I needed you, you weren't there
2) I honestly think I was never meant to be marriedwhich is incoherent somehow ... So what does that mean ?
she wants (or knows she have) to take a part of the blame on her or anyway this wasn't meant to last for ever anyway.Don't look for a woman ... look for complicity (friend first - men women whatever, like every human being you first need to share and being understood) ... and it seems that your ex wife is one of those (being an ex) it's not a loss ... you've gain something (more valuable than it could be in your first kind of relationship) here with her.
More you are looking for something, and more you take the risk to see what you want in those you want ... just get in touch with people and when possible when not superficial relation you have something valuable there ... the woman you will love and being loved from in return will be find into this kind of relationships.
Also be confident in yourself ... it helps
I wish you the best luck JG !!!
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Spirituality without Faith- Is It Possible?
by nvrgnbk inspirituality without faith.
what would it mean to naturalize spirituality?
how can naturalism inspire spiritual experience and provide us with a satisfying cognitive context within which to address our ultimate concerns?
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Mum :
My take is that spirituality is possible without traditional faith. To me, spirituality means transcending the demands of the amoral nature we are born with (ahemmm!) and reaching for our higher self and meaningful (to me as an individual) expression thereof. To me, creating beauty artistically, opening ourselves and others (if possible) to a wider range of experience, and contributing positively to the lives of others are all expressions of spirituality which do not require anything outside oneself.Regards,
SandraC
Perfect definition Mum : To me It have nothing to do with faith but the kind of faith the bible is talking about (for instance) needs such spirituality.
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What is it all about ?
by RAF in.
i've' always thought that americans where more romantic somehow than frenchs (they talk easier about feelings - true or false - it's not the point), and i'm always amazed when i read adds where most are quiet practical / materialistic in there definition of needs and responses regarding something related to love ... it's weird, it's like they don't believe in love anymore .... what is it all about ?.
and if you feel like you have an idea about what kind of add would please a woman - give it a try.
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Ok ... thanks for your answers
The thing is that actually I've been 3 weeks (it just bothers me at the end) on a dating service "Meetic" (most french but international) something like a year ago to have some fun talking and eventually meeting what could become new friends from everywhere (since mines are all married/with somebody or away), and actually I've realised that those (any age) who had interesting ads were players (their right - but not really interesting), also the young once were kind of romantic but with a lot of reserve (LOL ... To resume their ads were saying something like that : I'm looking for someone but do not expect me to marry you just because we get in touch - that's smart since they don't want to be bothered if they are not in love - but will they take advantage on the girl expecting some love anyway? - but two young someone - I really need to have conversations with people of my age - since I have acces to young once).
Most over 35 seems to loose confidence or put all their confidence into their means - and they were talking practical/material to attract girls - and that's repulsive somehow (what if he loses the money - where will be the man ?) ok the feeling is subjective cause thinking about it somehow I thought that most of those guys might be really interesting for girls who really wants to getmarried - who knows what they will discover as lovable in the man (but that was not for me)
But their ads were in facttalking about their mysery, those men weren't really trying to sell their real strenght, tenderness, funny or smart side ... whatever can be attractive about the man himself.
So I'm not sure it's an american specific trouble, They were from different countries (French or english talking) - I was the one checking - since I didn't want to put a pic).
just for the story :
I've met those who were funny (all finally wanted more - I mean sex at least - so it didn't work) : and here is the funiest thing which happen
Xavier (LOL) after taling friendly and a drink he told me straight ... I just want someone for sexe nothing more i'm tired with girls which get stucked ... so I've said : Well why don't you try prostitutes ? Too expensive ? We had a laugh but really the guy just disguste me !!! -
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What is it all about ?
by RAF in.
i've' always thought that americans where more romantic somehow than frenchs (they talk easier about feelings - true or false - it's not the point), and i'm always amazed when i read adds where most are quiet practical / materialistic in there definition of needs and responses regarding something related to love ... it's weird, it's like they don't believe in love anymore .... what is it all about ?.
and if you feel like you have an idea about what kind of add would please a woman - give it a try.
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RAF
I've' always thought that Americans where more romantic somehow than Frenchs (they talk easier about feelings - true or false - it's not the point), and I'm always amazed when I read adds where most are quiet PRACTICAL / MATERIALISTIC in there definition of needs and responses regarding something related to LOVE ... It's weird, it's like they don't believe in love anymore ...
What is it all about ?
and if you feel like you have an idea about what kind of add would please a woman - give it a try -
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Oklahoma (weekend photo thread)
by Sparkplug inso...it started out something like this .
and fast turned into something like this.
just our luck.
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RAF
Cool pics, thanks for sharing Sparky. ... it looks like you all really feel good naturally together !!!
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For the ladies:
by AllAlongTheWatchtower inis it ok to lie, or lie by omission of information, to your wife, if the motive is saving them stress or grief?.
i feel that my wife and i have a very good relationship, very open, we usually tell each other everything.
as i revealed in someone else's topic recently though, i am a pizza delivery driver...and last night i escaped an attempted robbery.
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Is it ok to lie, or lie by omission of information, to your wife, if the motive is saving them stress or grief?
it's cute in fact (if any day later she knows about it and don't see why she would be mad at you if she is, you can still say that since nothing really bad happened there was no reason to talk about it knowing it would stress her and that this story only called you to pay more attention ... (whatever is true and beneficial about it).
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if you could...
by return visitor inmeet one person from this forum that you have only communicated with through the forum or pming who would it be and why.
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i'll start off, i would like to meet purplesofa because she seems very thoughtfull, and alway tries to see the possitive and best in others..
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Sparky : we will dance till our feet wear thin!!
YeeHaaa ! (Texan style answer)
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Why doesnt HE just say Hi? If you were GOD would u :
by fedorE in1- keep the world the way it is, never revealing yourself.
or 2-immediately reveal yourself to mankind.. none of us has a direct line to him and im not even sure im convinced he exists like i was taught from childhood.
but damit i cannot understand for the life of me, why if he exists, he doesnt show himself in some way.... we know no one has absolute truth.our exp has shown us that just when we think we have the truth we were dead wrong.
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Yes this did cross my mind and I've even said it more than once (regarding what can be seen as a cruel life)
I don't anymore ... if my son wouldn't care recognising me and understand/really care about what I as a parent (in this case : everything = God - and in fact experience so then wisdom if we do take into consideration experience) have to tell him ... I'm not sure that there is anything more to say or to show.Also since it's all about how good or bad spirited we are as kids (this does not depends on our capacity to obbey to laws or doing good to people since it depends on the why) showing up wouldn't change anything about their spirit ... And what when as a parent I turn my back to have a nape (LOL)? scared to be themself (so not themself) or get the frustrution out if tehy do not agree with me in being vicious while I'm sleeping?
So, it is that we want to be raped spiritually having our free will taken from us or lobotomised to just be some kind of sheep to respect God ? I just don't want that neither for me or others ...
We want to know (in fact see) more than we are supposed to and do not aknowlegde what we can in being alive (if we have to see later will see later then.
So my take is : Don't worry - Life is short ... "experience" talks anyway (we hear it or not) and of course "experience" knows better