Also don't get me wrong : using fallacies is either conscious or not ... but it doesn't change what it is ... and to know about if it is a fallacy or not you have to examine the question for real ...
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284NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....
by Terry insomebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.
but, why are you still buying?
when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.
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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....
by Terry insomebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.
but, why are you still buying?
when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.
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just assuming that all believers (from theist to gnostic to agnostic) have each in being just of one of them have the same views and reasons to believe can be called silly ... (the question is what have we explored by now before to state anything when we can't take this into consideration?).
We are all differents, and will all have differents experiences even when it is to come to the same conclusion ... it's not paradoxal, it's just logical because of our differences ... So whatever someone tell us people or God (means to me = Everything) I don't think that it have to be the same thing.
about arguments : Every fallacy, or proof needs to contain valid argurments - now how do you make the difference in between the two if you only jump like - ho this is what I think - or this looks so logic without really taking a deep look at it.
The other day John Doe took the time - because you need time, a sharp brain and the envy to get into showing the fallacy of an argument - because fallacy (some kind of sophism) is about being logic without total logic it only get those who don't want to think about think ... does that remind you somehting? ...
That doesn't mean that JD was more right than T (you right to believe whatever you want it your responsability) but JD had nothing to try to incultate to anyone ... and he did the job that we should do before to just agree without getting the point about the validity of an argument contextually and globally ...
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I JUST FOUND OUT.......!!!!!!
by Es inthat im having another baby!!!!!.
just done the test and the line came up straight away....... we were planning on falling pregnant in about three months and happend to fall pregnant straight away...im still in shock but had to share it with you all my family.
luv ya.
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OoooOoooOooo !!! congrats, congrats, congrats !!!
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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....
by Terry insomebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.
but, why are you still buying?
when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.
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Check them
both Garybuss postshttp://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/140044/1.ashx
and read Educ8self (about the third focus - regarding to this forum discussion)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/140032/1.ashxand forget about blaming happydad it looks like double standard ...
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Clear ...
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Not allowed to sleep over - is that weird?
by collegegirl21 inokay, so my guy and i have been together for 10 months and we usually are ok together.
but there is something that has been getting to me and i think its unusual, but please correct me if i'm wrong - he won't let me sleep over at his house.
and he hardly ever stays at my house, he's maybe stayed here 3 times in our whole relationship.
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you know better than us about the details anyway - maybe we do not have the right picture ... (you're not telling about his age btw is he something like 6 or more older than you - take care because this is maybe why he is with a young girl to be able to keep the entire control - guess what's next !!!!) so of course you can try the ultimatum stuff ... most for yourself, but remember this if you chose to cope with even if you can't get what you need:
Young or not, you'll have to take responsability even for being screwed - you will have make this choice - and that's what most girls don't understand - at some point if you feel too bad about something but still trying hard to cope with it (I mean you don't have any kid with this guy, you are not married either - he is not a dangerous guy who told you that if you leave him he will kill you something alike) so you will be responsible of your own pain.
Don't want to sound harsh ... I Just want you to know that it's harder to understand (that we can be our own killer, it doesn't help the other one to become better, and it won't help you to feel good about yourself you may at the end only feel like a loser. I mean your hapiness most depends on you ...
Take care ... I wishe you to take the right decision (regarding to what you know exactly).
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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....
by Terry insomebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.
but, why are you still buying?
when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.
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JT: Of course to discover such would require a looking past the confines of all mental knowledge, concepts, abstracts and gods.
as a (first of ...)
Second of: So before to answer this question it's interesting to know before how everyone defines God ... (then you can approache their answers). I can read that a lot of you are stucked into believing that every believers believes in the kind of God defined by the WTBS (so what did you explore by now?).
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wozadummy : your nickname craked me up (no wonder that you are NOT* taking yourself too seriously)
Changeling : If I ever met him I don't know if I'd kiss him or slap him. lol
blueblades : I just finished reading.."EINSTEIN..His Life and Universe." 675 pages..I know nothing!... ... thanks for the laugh
(*) editted to add (it wouldn't have mean the same at all)
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The Art of Inculcation
by garybuss ini'm not sure where i got this or who wrote it.
i like it and thought i'd post it for the forum.. *************.
the art of inculcation.
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Good topic
Now I know why (whithout realising it) my parents actally (un)culcated me ... (too busy and f*cked up from being incultcated in very different ways - one would bow to anything looks holy to her, and the other one about anything devilish and I'm talking about an other religion here = Sorcery) ... I guess I've decided to think for myself since I was a bit over 7 (it was all too freaking crazy).
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Not allowed to sleep over - is that weird?
by collegegirl21 inokay, so my guy and i have been together for 10 months and we usually are ok together.
but there is something that has been getting to me and i think its unusual, but please correct me if i'm wrong - he won't let me sleep over at his house.
and he hardly ever stays at my house, he's maybe stayed here 3 times in our whole relationship.
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No balance - no real chance ...
you can use the "being away" for a while to see if he misses you ... ok ... But I hope you really do it for yourself regarding to him (to know more about what you really want and can bear on the long run and if he worth it) and not as a way to get what you want (also his parents are not him, and they won't be the one you have to deal with anyway - Do not count on them at all).
I mean I hope for you, that this relationship won't turn around some kind of ultimatums : If you don't give me this you won't have that (that's not a loving attitude - that's control freak attitude whatever reason is involved).
If you are ready to leave, leave - if you can't don't (you'll come back anyway as soon as he calls you and that's when you'll really get traped into this awful game) regarding to your all your needs you might able to give up only when you'll meet someone else or when you will have take too much BS for too long to the point to not being able to bear it anymore. so leave if you are ready - stay if you're not.
Anyway, you won't be able to forget about your needs and if you can't get what you need in this relationship it will only drives you frustrated nor crazy. (how good is that for both of you?).
Also you have to know something ... A frustrated woman don't look good (even if she is beautifful) and is either harder or easier to manipulate ... being free/single can be frustrating (if you are a kind of girl who need to be with someone at any rate) but at least you are open to whatever pleases you.
The reason why most people are frustated is because they are looking for something that they can't get from those they want to get it, or the way they want to get it ... So at some point you have to realised how much being frustated doesn't help you to be able to give up about what you are expecting from the other, or the way you are expecting things form the other one means either in accepting that you won't get what you want, or just forget about that person.
Instead of waiting to know more about him (his reasons) you need to know WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, WHY and if you can get that only from HIM? (but still does it worth it) so it's all about :
How long have you been single in your life? How did you feel when single? (I mean do you need some kind of permanent attachement? Why do you love this guy? (what drives you to him?). Also What's wrong with not having to sleep over for real, when you can have good time together anyway in other ways? WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT that HE CAN'T TAKE and GIVE YOU right NOW for ANY REASON? Can you accept those reasons? how do they affect you?
I mean if you force this guy it won't be about love, this will be about feeling obligated - how do you feel about someone who makes you feel obligated? So where do you think this can lead?
My take is that you are 22 (that's very yound now a days to get into a serious relationship with already such frustration) you might really want or even need to have fun and more experience before to get involved with some kind of insecure controle freak which have such issues which gets so frustrated and feeling insecure because of it).
Take care !
Best wishes