Ascot (I'm surprised)
Ok ... what you guys have to understand is that if we are not talking about the same matter it doesn't lead anywhere
while you are claming (without knowing what I know about the matter - wich I find quiet presomptious) it's seems like you are actually not really reading what I'm saying but only want to push your argument ... so my question is how can you answer an argument if you don't take into consideration the right one.I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE MATTER FROM THE START (not the provable part of some provable evolution process which I agree with BTW but only the provable part not more, not less)
Now again : Can any SCIENTIST prove that God (again the kind I'm thinking and talking about - and not JW like) Does not existe?
Is that too much to ask for you to considere this before to state anything either about the whole matter of evolution theory from the start or even me (do you know so much about what I know) OH OH OH Please !!!
I thought that the ambiance was getting more reasonable here ... but
Eddited to add : if you have to read the other tread read it from the start to the end ... to get the point
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by Warlock ini believe in god, but i also realize he may not exist.. if you don't believe in god, i really don't care, i'm just curious.. i don't have this need to start threads like "why you must believe in god", or other such nonsense, but some of you still have this "control" issue that you thought you left in the org.
it seems like you must still try to control what others think.
"think like me, or you are an idiot.
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so I told her that I'm in love with her....
by jaredg inbut she didn't reciprocate.
she held me tight and kissed me softly.
her body language says that she loves me and she's told me she cares for me very much, but she didn't say those magic words.
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Nothing to add but best wishes !!!
Oh maybe this
I don't think that anyone looks dumb in saying to anyone he loves him/her (just saying it is a gift) what can be dumb is having too much expectations from the moment it is said. -
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Please welcome NvrKssdNObutt to the board
by purplesofa ini started a thread for this great guy but without his name in the subject.
this is a dear friend that sees the light.
i was dunked in 1972 --- even did a stint as a regular pioneer --- sold the damn tires and wheels off the mobile home to buy gas to preach!.
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NvrKssdNObutt - some of you guys shows a great sens of humour in chosing your nicknames too funny !!!
it reminds me wozadummy latelyWelcome !!!
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Weird Feelings
by FreeGirl2006 ini had lunch with my stepson today.
this is not a regular or typical occurrence as he is pretty well indoctrinated into the dubs.
i am separated (& close to divorce) from his father.
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I'm also with brunnhilde on the matter ... A relation in a marriage is something, the different kinds of relationship you can have with anyone is something else (always related to feelings) but the kind of feeling do change sometimes, it's still love but a different kind (I mean there is a reason why we do love some people at first - and most of the time those reasons stands)
Never been married but I still have a good relationship with a very few of my ex (weither our love affaire went crazy or just end up for any reason like not ready, not compatible in the matter, not having the same expectation in life ...) they actually became very good friends and it feels good to know that it's possible and that you can hold a new kind of relationship it's just another kind of way to love and to be loved. Very often with way more understanding (whatever screw up the love affaire).
Who knows (if he comes to understands you, and that you can understand him) then you haven't really lost him as a potential good friend and can keep a good relationship with the entire familly.
wish you the best.
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My granddaughter 5 mos old passed away today...
by Tatiana inshe was beautiful.
her name was aliyah.
she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.
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I'm so sorry for you loss (((Tatiana)))
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I REALLY DON'T CARE...............................
by Warlock ini believe in god, but i also realize he may not exist.. if you don't believe in god, i really don't care, i'm just curious.. i don't have this need to start threads like "why you must believe in god", or other such nonsense, but some of you still have this "control" issue that you thought you left in the org.
it seems like you must still try to control what others think.
"think like me, or you are an idiot.
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Was curious ... OY OY OY ... you guy's (you are not the only one) :
Congrats yourself ... ()
you want the other cheek (you've got it - nothing painfull here) I don't think I need to explain my point of view over and over again (like in the thread you've mentionned ... means in the same thread just to debunck fallacies (it's getting more and more tiring) And I'm confident in peoples intelligence to get the point about the fallacies.
The thing is that anyway I don't need to win ...
Now just for you to know what you are talking about, I think that you need a reminder about was is fallacy all about :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies (with examples)it includes direct and indirect personal attacks (and the reason why I've reacted to your poste is about you used the IQ argurment - powerfull word - to prove nuts)
Read the link - very interesting ... (and then read yourself back).
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Do you suffer from RELIGIOUS HYPOCHONDRIA???
by Terry inhealthy people don't go to a doctor.
if they do they are hypochondriacs.
hypochondriacs spend their time and money on imagined illnesses.
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Thanks for you answer Popper (I don't think that we differ on the matter you are talking about)
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I REALLY DON'T CARE...............................
by Warlock ini believe in god, but i also realize he may not exist.. if you don't believe in god, i really don't care, i'm just curious.. i don't have this need to start threads like "why you must believe in god", or other such nonsense, but some of you still have this "control" issue that you thought you left in the org.
it seems like you must still try to control what others think.
"think like me, or you are an idiot.
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You know what since the first line you are using any king of fallacies/sophism (logic without total logic) to get your point ...
Guess what? ... No comment ! ...I have nothing to prove
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about the question and some answers ... (too funny)
ok seriously even if you take the bible point of view : Matthew 12:30-32
30. "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
31. "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
32. "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.So I guess it's not a question of believe in him to not get killed () it's most about not working against what is productive in the matter of love (means somehow wisdom = Christ finally there are many ways to have faith in him not only believing/have faith/adhering in Christ in the stricto sensu but having faith in what is productive in the matter of love.
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What did you see first to fall in love?
by hamsterbait inwhat first made you notice for the first time your future sex object?.
was it the perfect shiny ringlets of the little girl in front of you in 2nd grade?
( i always wanted to push my fingers up inside the ringlets of the pert little bossy boots in front of me.).
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he's name was guy(lou) I was 7 he was 8, I was fat and ugly, he was handsome but he kissed me ...
he've never been my sex object tho
I saw him way later (in someone else friend wedding) ... I was 17 I wasn't fat and ugly anymore and didn't even gave a look / even fell that he was avoiding to ... Oh well