perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
YK.
If you really want to have success in any sort of prophecy, then you must jump in my band-wagon..,-)) lol
The reason is simple:
BECAUSE THERE IS NOOOO WAY OUT FROM THE DISASTER!
You may rescue ten broken nuclear power plants of type Chernobyl,
but you never can rescue the international disastreous patent-policy...
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
YK wrote
The world has been virtually flooded with cheap dollars.
That's right.
But has nothing to do with 9-11.
Same happens in Japan since 1994.
(And will go on with EURO this spring-time.)
The actually background for low interest rates and " non-stop-money-pressing " is the lack of new (GENUINELY NEW !!!) inventions in the NewEconomy-branch. Almost all of new hi-tech-products coming on the market are hardly patentable. If patents has been granted, they mostly get unworthy or void through legal actions.
It's an international disaster, which few people are aware of.
Read my site:
http://www.sensortime.com/thoughts-e3.html
i frequently read on this board that somebody has 'been a jw for over 25 years' and then learn that they are in fact 25 years and three days old.. i am very easily confused, in fact i actually got inside a car of similar color to my own recently and spent at least five minutes with a furrowed brow trying to force my car key into its ignition, fortunately, i realised my error before i was arrested.
so, just to humor me, can you all post how long you were/are baptised jw's?.
thank you -- hs.
BQE wrote:
DF'd December 1980 because I wanted to go to college
Amazing.
Incredible.
I'd never heard of something like this.
when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.
it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.
one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.
You Know:
Indeed, the doctrinal basis for the Watchtower’s authority is found later on in that prophecy where Jesus foretold the appointment of a faithful slave to oversee his household.
Dear brother YK:
Sorry, I never read in the bible there's a doctrinal basis found for the Watchtower's authority. Rather, there is a basis for the authority of Jesus and the anointed 144 000 found. Thats clear.
Watchtower is a incorporated company, the name is registrated in the US patent & Trademark Office. If authority, then you obviously mean that one of the Faithful & Discreet Slave. These are persons counting to the anointed ones. Watchtower contain of two different groups now: Anointed ones who are mostly older than 80 (corporated under the WTS of PA) and the Max Larsson's group containing non-anointed ones (corporated under WTS of N.Y.).
WTS always declared there is a difference between "Watchtower" and the F&DS. New light now? Please explain.
Futher:
Any brother who deliberately seeks to undermine the trust of Jehovah’s Witnesses in their leadership is wicked and has no place in God’s household of faithful ministers.
Question: What do you understand as "leadership"? YHVH/JHWH and Jesus Christ together with the 144 000 anointed ones?
If I made false allegations, please tell me.
when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.
it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.
one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.
You Know:
[QUOTE] Indeed, the doctrinal basis for the Watchtower’s authority is found later on in that prophecy where Jesus foretold the appointment of a faithful slave to oversee his household. [QUOTE]
Dear brother YK:
Sorry, I never read in the bible there's a doctrinal basis found for the Watchtower's authority. Rather, there is a basis for the authority of Jesus and the anointed 144 000 found. Thats clear.
Watchtower is a incorporated company, the name is registrated in the US patent & Trademark Office. If authority, then you obviously mean that one of the Faithful & Discreet Slave. These are persons counting to the anointed ones. Watchtower contain of two different groups now: Anointed ones who are mostly older than 80 (corporated under the WTS of PA) and the Max Larsson's group containing non-anointed ones (corporated under WTS of N.Y.).
WTS always declared there is a difference between "Watchtower" and the F&DS. New light now? Please explain.
Futher:
[QUOTE] Any brother who deliberately seeks to undermine the trust of Jehovah’s Witnesses in their leadership is wicked and has no place in God’s household of faithful ministers.[QUOTE]
Question: What do you understand as "leadership"? YHVH/JHWH and Jesus Christ together with the 144 000 anointed ones?
If I made false alleges, please get me right.
i received this letter from my mother over the weekend, it came with a card and a special note to my children.
i plan to let them read it someday, not today..... silentlambs.
december 20,2001 .
silentlambs:
You should send that letter to the right address and not to the wrong one.
Your parents are victims of stupidity and intolerance of elders, CO's and so on.
THEY (and not your parents who after 40 years got totally frustrated and thinking screwedly) have to be forced to change their attitude in appropriate manner so it matches with the demandments of the Holy Bible.
That's the right way. The elders of their congo must do steps to influence they in appropriate manner. They are fully responsible for what'd happened, and besides, your parents are hearing up to them - more than to the scriptures.
this is an essay by some guy: .
the horsemen of the economic apocalypse.
i find my mind is becoming more elastic these days, as in the silly putty toy of my youth.
You Know: (citing Doug McIntosh)
The spring 2002 economic recovery is a joke just like the two predicted in 2001 were. Deflation is here.
and
Buy gold and silver and prepare for an alternative economic system to the one collapsing around us. Remember the people of Argentina were reduced to debit cards and $250 a week in cash. If you had gold, you would simply have gone and sold an ounce or two if you needed money.
This is nonsense; absolutely.
Either you have inflation: then you have to buy gold and silver (or other metals or real estates or coffee or oil etc....)
Or you have deflation: then please take your hands off!
The only way possible in such a situation is waiting for a crash. Then go to buy stocks or gov loans or bonds at the lowest price level and sell them with a small profit.
But if the crash is so strong that the banks become bankruptcy within days, it's your doom..;-)
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
ashi
I didn't read the entire "You Know"-stuff (very long and takes much time because English isn't my native language..), but nevertheless
I am ready to assure all forum-members here:
The situation of the international economy- and finance-structure is indeed extremely dangerous.
There never has been a similar situation during the entire history.
We do not know the manner how the things go on, but you might be sure, that there is a connection between situation mentioned and the plan of God to change the world to establish a new and righteous world order. But my opinion is, that the matters proceed in an other way than most of all (including JW's, nonJW's, exJW's and WTS) would expect.
the year 1925 was notable as the year when the wts for the first time proclaimed the importance of the name jehovah, although the watchtower followers were not called jehovah's witnesses until six years later in 1931.. this is claimed by the wts (see proclaimers book, page 152) to be a name given by "divine providence".. this is the teaching given in the knowledge book on page 94, paragraph 12.. a question: since there's much conjecture about the 'proper' name and pronunciation of god's name, some believing that yahweh is the most appropriate, why did an all-knowing god not impart to his f&ds the correct pronunciation.
if he wanted his followers to be named after himself, then why did he tell them to be called by an erroneous name?.
interestingly, the proclaimers book itself gives an alternative explanation of the origin of the name jehovah's witnesses:.
Mrs ozzi:
"Are you saying that it wasn't a part of Rutherford's strategy?".
My opinion is:
It's not so important if it has been "strategy" or "genius stroke" or whatever: If someone (this one could be me, or you, or your husband, or Bill Gates, or the Pope or else...) is going to use the name of the Almighty God and claims to speak in HIS name, he is fully responsible for ALL THINGS WHICH HAPPENS THEREAFTER.
God didn't conclude a license-agreement with the WTS (or someone else) for using HIS name, which can be terminated to any point in time the licensee might be free to define...
the year 1925 was notable as the year when the wts for the first time proclaimed the importance of the name jehovah, although the watchtower followers were not called jehovah's witnesses until six years later in 1931.. this is claimed by the wts (see proclaimers book, page 152) to be a name given by "divine providence".. this is the teaching given in the knowledge book on page 94, paragraph 12.. a question: since there's much conjecture about the 'proper' name and pronunciation of god's name, some believing that yahweh is the most appropriate, why did an all-knowing god not impart to his f&ds the correct pronunciation.
if he wanted his followers to be named after himself, then why did he tell them to be called by an erroneous name?.
interestingly, the proclaimers book itself gives an alternative explanation of the origin of the name jehovah's witnesses:.
ozzipost:
[qoute]"Author Chandler W Sterling refers to this as "the greatest stroke of genius" on the part of J F Rutherford, then president of the Watch Tower Society". [/qoute]
Wasn't.
Because the society is now judged by the Almighty God in regard to have put honor to HIS name or not; more than any other society, religion or association in the world.
