I was a dumpy elder's daughter AND wife, lol, and I STILL got counselled for wearing skirts that were too LONG! Apparently anything that made you stand out at ALL was unacceptable! Strain at the gnat and gulp down the camel!
brunn
thought this could get interesting discussing experiences.
i for one was trying to reach out for ministerial servant again in the early 90's , had been one before, and was assigned to carry the microphones one meeting.
had an elder call me in the back room and say , " brother flipper, i noticed looking down towards your shoes that you are wearing white socks today.
I was a dumpy elder's daughter AND wife, lol, and I STILL got counselled for wearing skirts that were too LONG! Apparently anything that made you stand out at ALL was unacceptable! Strain at the gnat and gulp down the camel!
brunn
long before we 'figured it out', i think we were tiring of the whole routine and demands, though we could not admit such openly, even to each other for the most part.
but i recall occasionally 'oversleeping', and in some cases i had woke early enough but just intentionally let time go by and got up 'running late'.
our family 'tradition' was to stop for breakfast at a local restuarant on the way to the kh.
I remember feigning a "migraine" and the delightfully wicked and wonderful feeling slipping out the door after the talk to FREEDOM!!!!!! It would make me positively giddy, like I could take a full breath of air for the first time in hours. Come to think of it, just this last Saturday I was with my son on the way to the park and had stopped for coffee. Of course there was a carload of dubs milling vacuously around in the parking lot and I had the biggest smile on my face as I sipped my latte, opened my sun roof and drove off to enjoy the beautiful day with my little boy!
brunn
according to a recent study, ibs is a condition that appears to be directly affected by personal circumstances that cause frustration and repressed emotions.
the example given was of women who live under an authoritarian husband and are not allowed to express their feelings.
i have a jw aunt who has suffered horribly from this miserable condition for years.
I was suffering from IBS, migraines, throwing up before and after meetings, panic attacks - the whole range of stress induced physical reactions. I still get migraines (monthly) but the rest has faded over the year and a half since I left the Borg. I still get panic flutters, but not the full-on roaring in my ears, can't function panic attacks. Physically, emotionally, mentally, financially - leaving the dubs was the best thing that ever happened to me!
brunn
backstory: i just moved out of the house my soon-to-be-ex and i own together.
he's staying until the house sells.
in the meantime, i'm paying half the mortgage and half the utilities.
Thanks for the speedy response, everyone!
MrsJones5: I told him if he wanted that level of privacy then he could pay the whole mortgage and utilities himself!
OTWO: We've had separate bedrooms for several months for exactly that reason and we've both been respectful of the other's privacy and boundaries. I would only be grabbing stuff from where its stored in the garage or picking up clothes for my son.
SweetPea: Not sure I understand exactly what you're saying, though I'm sorry it sounds like you had a tough time when you split with your spouse.
I think part of why I find this so infuriating is that he has virtually no responsibility for our son, still isn't working full-time and has the house to himself ALL the time and that's still not enough, now I need to give notice on the rare occasions I might stop by to pick up something from the garage? I mean, come on! I'm trying to keep this as civil and amiable as possible, both for my son, and for myself.
John Doe is right, and I've heard that comment from others. It really isn't worth getting wound up over. I just have let so many other things slide during this long process that this one just got stuck.
brunn
backstory: i just moved out of the house my soon-to-be-ex and i own together.
he's staying until the house sells.
in the meantime, i'm paying half the mortgage and half the utilities.
Backstory: I just moved out of the house my soon-to-be-ex and I own together. He's staying until the house sells. In the meantime, I'm paying half the mortgage and half the utilities. Until just recently I was paying 65% of everything because he hasn't worked full-time in six years. I moved in with my brother who lives about fifty minutes away. My ex has asked that I call before coming to the house in case he has "company." I have no intention of trying to surprise him, or coming at weird times and I don't care that he is doing anything with anyone, but I find it offensive that since I'm still paying half of the upkeep, he wants me to give him advance notice. While I may not be living there, it's still my house. If he wants privacy, then he should rent an apartment or pay the entire mortgage in my view.
Our divorce has been fairly amicable, and both of us have faded successfully over the last year and a half. We left for VERY different reasons. For some reason this really torques me, and I'd like to know what you wonderful people think. Am I being unreasonable?
brunn
on an earlier thread about ice cream i remembered a snack that was sold at assemblies and that started me thinking about some of my memories of childhood at conventions/assemblies.
i guess it was the taste/smell association because even today when i go to various convention halls for home improvement expos, car shows and the like it takes me right back to the past.
i have many memories wrapped around the conventions and experienced different things because i have lots of elders in the family that were used, literally, for food service, the accounting office, security and dramas.
The circuit assembly hall in Woodlburn, Oregon has a long dark hallway that runs behind the length of the stage. My dad was in charge of cleaning so we were always the ones to lock up. When I was still little enough, I remember taking my courage in both hands (both because it was dark and because "this is Jehovah's House") and pelting down that long hallway that was so dark you couldn't see; just holding my hand on the wall as I ran, breathless with the joy of running and the terror of getting caught being "disrespectful." So many memories, but so weird looking back at how twisted and distorted our lives were. No wonder so many of us are struggling.
brunn
dear mom and dad,
so you want to here from me and to know how i really feel on certain issues which is understandable.
i mentioned before that i always felt like the black sheep, like something was wrong with me.
Very well done, TBL. You've been in my thoughts since things started getting more and more difficult on the homefront. Let us know how you are.
brunn
my wife is still on the inside.
sometimes i dont care about that or about the wtbts's nonsense.
and then some days, i wake up and i have all this anger inside.
given the often devastating consequences of disassociation and disfellowshipping isn't it fair that those studying with the jws should be explicitly warned about these precedures in advance so that they know where they walking into?
so that they would be able to better judge whether they want to become jws and potentially risk losing jw family and friends at some future time?
how many of you would get baptised into the cult if you really knew about the policies of dfing and shunning?
I've thought about this a lot, and I think the only thing worse than failing to give a warning to those they're attempting to convert is holding people responsible for decisions they made at 15, 10, even 7 years of age. I honestly cannot comprehend how the legal system can allow them to stigmatize an individual because of a commitment they made while their parents were dominating every facet of their lives. Truly unjust and wicked, to use their own terms!
brunn
Looks intriguing! I added it to my Netflix - thanks for the rec.
brunn