Posts by jamiebowers

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was anyone ever told they would have been stoned to death by an elder?

by looloo in

i was when i had an affair , but this elders pioneer daughter told me she understood why i had done it , i was feeling dreadfull and so guilt ridden but he said i should through myself at my hubs feet and beg forgiveness from him and had i lived 2000 years ago i would have been stoned to death !

the strange thing is a few years later this elder told me he had feelings for me , but he was married and old enough to be my dad , although i liked him as a person by then and had forgotten what he had said to me about being stoned to death, i was a bit annoyed that he told me not to tell anyone ,and yet was telling other people to tattle tale on others , i know he felt really bad about his feelings though and i did feel sorry for him , but asked him not to visit anymore as it made me feel guilty towards his wife , maybe it was gods way of getting him to see things from a wrong doers point of view ,as he had a reputation for being very harsh on wrong doers (like myself) maybe he makes a better elder nowadays after that insight , or maybe they think i was sent by satan to seduce a pioneer and an elder !

jamiebowers

The elders never said that to me, but I know others (mostly women) who have been told that

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My life - A brief history. Part 1

by Galileo in

this post has gotten quite long so i decided to break it up into at least two sections.

i hope it doesnt come across as rambling.

i should start with a confession: it was my smurf that walked out of the kingdom hall in the early 80's.

jamiebowers

Interesting and well written--if part 2 doesn't include you finally getting to college, please know that I didn't start until I was almost 32 and didn't graduate until I was 35.

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When is the Memorial?

by lavendar in

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#1) i don't know when the memorial is ...... and #2) i'm planning on having a family get-together dinner at the end of this month, but i don't want to choose the evening of the memorial; because our two jw relatives wouldn't be able to attend our dinner on that day.

i know they'll be going to the memorial.. thanks for letting me know the date!

lavendar .

jamiebowers

According to Jehovah's Witnesses Online it is Saturday, March 22.

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i have a friend that was emotionally and physically abused by her jw hub

by looloo in

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but she was told by an elder to put up and shut up as she had been told not to marry him in the first place , when she told her jw mum of the abuse, my friend was counselled for causing trouble in the congregation and in future not to discuss it with anyone !!!!

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jamiebowers

Yes, I had a very similar sitution, I stayed married to a lunatic for about 7 years while enduring beatings and him terrorizing me with everything under the sun (including driving into oncoming traffic). I was a regular pioneer through most of it, but the elders counseled me to be a better wife, wait on Jehovah, etc., even though he repeatedly confessed his sins. When I filed for divorce, the elders told me that I would have to remain single until I could prove he had sexual relations with someone else (like I wanted to be around him in order to find out). I just wanted out and told them so, and I was disfellowshipped for it. I have heard stories from other JW women who were raped by a brother or physically and/or sexually abused by their husbands, fathers, etc., and nothing was done to the abusers but most of the women were disfellowshipped. That's how it goes with the WTB&TS.

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Elders refuse to Testify

by The Scotsman in

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came across this article - .

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the case goes to court today i think.. you will notice that the org + the local elders are only interested in protecting confidentiality and are refusing to testify.. the rights of the victims are lower on the priority scale.. makes me shudder.

jamiebowers

I wonder how long it will take for the parents of the victims to be disfellowshipped for coming forward and exposing that monster for what he is. I also wonder if the elders discouraged the parents of the victims from going to law enforcement. They (the elders) apparently aren't concerned about punishing the molester and protecting the victims and other children who may become his victims.

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disfellowshiped jw's relationship

by vat152 in

hi all i'm new to this so be patient with me please.. i'm not a jw and never will be but my partner is although she was disfelllowshiped some years ago for adultry with someone other than me which jed to a divorce from her husband (who is still a jw), this happpened about 8 years ago, she then went into a relationship which turned violent and abusive, this ended a couple of years ago.. i met her just over 12 months ago and fell head over heals in love with her and i have proposed to her and we are due to be married in july this year, we have a good relationship except for one thing, the bedroom activities.

she tells me that it makes her feel dirty and cheap and refuses to put her arms around me unless i am covered up with clothes or the quilt, any type of skin contact is a no no, we do occassionaly make love but she hates it.. the thing i want to clear up is this, she is devout about the religion and the wt although she doesn't attend any meetings.

i am led to believe that if a disfellowshiped jw shows repent they are allowed back into the kingdom hall, i know that she would like to be allowed back into the religion, do you think that she is trying to show repent by not making any skin contact with me whilst we are out of wedlock?.

jamiebowers

The sex being dirty thing makes me wonder if she was molested as a child. I would check into that possiblity if I were you. If she was, you have another kettle of fish to fry before trying to deprogram her. Also since she has kids that are in the custody of her JW ex-husband, I wonder if her faith in the religion may have more to do with wanting a full, good relationship with her sons than anything else. Her being disfellowshipped has to be a strain on their relationship. Be careful with your heart, because the pull of this cult along with a natural desire to be close to her kids is very stong. She very well may go back, and it will be a complete nightmare for you. If you two are married by then, her reinstatement will cause even greater divides in your relationship than there are now. If you aren't married, she will leave you behind in the dust (she won't have a choice in the matter).

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Another JW Pedophile

by jamiebowers in

http://www.wciv.com/news/stories/0208/500255.html .

man charged with criminal solicitation of a minor.

jamiebowers

silentlambs - It's time to protect children. It's time to stop being a silent lamb.

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		http://www.wciv.com/news/stories/0208/500255.html Man Charged With Criminal Solicitation Of A Minor February 29, 2008 - Goose Creek, SC Reporter: Sarah DeMarco A man is charged with criminal solicitation of a minor, after he made inappropriate comments on her myspace page. Clifton Reed Jr. and the 14-year-old girl met at a Jehovah's Witness social gathering. Friday Reed was charged. Police say he was soliciting sex from a 14-year-old, both online and over the phone. Parents often tell their kids not to speak to strangers , but police say, that's the problem with the internet, and a case like this. The 14-year-old girl never felt she was talking to a stranger, but instead someone she developed a relationship with over the past two months. "It scares me, I gave him a roof over his head, close to work," the suspect's roomate, Densmore Sims said. Sims says his roomate, Clifton Reed Jr., kept quiet and to himself. But police say the conversations and pictures Reed shared with a young James Island girl, both on myspace.com and on his blackberry, will now keep him away from her and any minor. "Right now, it just scared me, scared my whole family, they don't even know what to think," Sims said. Sgt. Trisha Taylor says this case proves how important it is for parents to teach their children the kinds of relationships with adults that are inappropriate. "Internet relationships occur in a nanosecond. The problem is, you've got junvenile's that aren't prepared to deal with the flattery that goes on. The manipulation going on. The grooming techniques," Charleston City Police Dept., Trisha Taylor said. Taylor says parents must take the secrecy out of the internet and not allow their kids to be online behind closed door. Reed faces up to ten years in prison if convicted, plus registration as a sex offender for life. Reed Jr. is considered a flight risk because he was planning on moving back to New York in a few weeks. His bond is set at $100,000.

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Radio programme tonight, trying to get witnesing banned in Aust.

by Lehaa in

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haven't been around lately, but life is great.

rarely think about the witnesses these days and my mental health is getting better and better.

was listening to triple m (a radio station here) and the dj was doing a talk back segment about how annoying it is to have witnesses etc.

jamiebowers

It would be better to start a drive to have people mail "Do Not Call" letters to their local kh's--no court cases, no bs--just no call.

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Breastfeeding not allowed.

by The Scotsman in

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shocker at the group last week..... i was at the group last week (1st in about 4 weeks) and the conductor (the p.o.

) takes a sister aside and tells her that she was not allowed to breastfeed her baby before or after the book study because "someone" found it awkward.. hmm, i wonder if it was him that found it awkward.. anyway the twist in the story is that the group meets at her house.

the sisters husband was far from happy but is to reserved to do anything about it.

jamiebowers

A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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My Fiancé Can No Longer Talk to Me Because She is Becoming a JW

by reekster in

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i've been with someone for over ten years.

sounds like a long time to be engaged, but we were perfectly happy with the arrangement, knowing that some of the circumstances in each of our lives needed to be worked out before we could marry.

one day she told me that she wanted to investigate the jws.

jamiebowers

Don't argue scripture with her. Use the fact that she has a daughter and show her all of the news reports about the child molestation and resulting cover ups at www.silentlambs.com You could also show her the the stories about disfellowshipping on youtube. Make it clear to her that if she gets baptized and then changes her mind, her parents more than likely will have nothing to do with her.