Ha, the Watchtower or its mnions wouldn't know a real angel if one came up and hit them in the ass! In my case, the only "angels" I ever met were the ones who helped me get away from a sadistic, murderous jw husband and the cult he lured me into....My co-workers, supervisor, and attorney, the judge, and the police department were the ones who saved me.
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Are angels just lazy and perverted?
by Pistoff inreason i ask is we have seen 2 threads this week about angels:.
1. the angels direct judicial committees; when someone is disfellowshipped, the angels are behind it.. so i am wondering why the angels can't seem to identify the pedophiles that are in the congregation, and when a case does come to light, as they did in california over and over, they can't seem to decide that the pedophile should be kicked out?.
do angels like child rapists?
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Has anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?
by garyneal inhas anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?.
did they really try to prove it to you or did they write you off as hopelessly lost or somewhere in between?
as some of you are aware, i have been trying to get my wife to prove it to me, and if not her, another believing jehovahs witness.
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jamiebowers
I refuse to play apostate games with you.
Not that I want to be a sh*t disturber, Gary, but that answer really pisses me off! Maybe the next time your wife objects to innocent past times such as your kids watching "The Princess and the Frog" movie, your answer should be, "I'm not playing your cult games!"
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Question for the men
by SafeAtHome ini'd like the input of the guys, maybe some of you who have been married or in a serious relationship for some time.
if you were having an affair and your wife found out about it, would you want her to tell you she knew?
would it serve a purpose, that is, make you end the affair, or on the other hand, push it over the edge to be with the other person?
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jamiebowers
I will say this is not about the other woman. Who and what she is does not matter. What matters is between you and your husband and I think you would be better off focusing on how to fix that rather than on what makes her such an unsavory person. Whoever or whatever she is, focusing on it will not fix your marriage.
Again, this is NOT a typical affair. This woman is a grifter. The more SAH knows about her and how much money, if any has been spent on her, the better. It's not just her marital future that's in question, but her financial one as well.
I admit to the fact that I did not always make things perfect and that left him vulnerable to her advances, giving him an excuse really
Nobody makes everything in their marriage, or anything else for that matter, perfect.
My whole rant and the followups... They all point to the fact that its never one person.
EE, never say "never". Tell me, was it my fault that my first marriage ended? What is it that I could've done to keep him from beating and strangling me? What in the world did I do to provoke him into driving into oncoming traffic or toward a tree to terrorize me? In your marriage, your wife refuses to listen to you or live more than a marginal life that includes staying in bed most of the time, not focusing on you, your kids or the household. How exactly is that your fault?
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maintaining sanity
by wizardca insigh.
i've posted a few times mostly about personal life with the wt.
i haven't been to an indoctrinationsales meeting in years (7+?).
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jamiebowers
I hope you're correct about no one pursuing you for a jc, and you're lucky if you are right about it. If none of your jw family shows up to your wedding, count your blessings. On that day you want only people who wish the best for you, your new bride and your future together, not a bunch who stand around clucking their tongues about pagan origins and other imagined sins.
Congrats on your engagement, have the happiest of wedding days and an even happier future!
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Double Lives of JW Youth
by camicia ini posted a lengthy concern a while back about my 23 year old daughter on the verge of baptism.
the good news is she still hasn't progressed past studying - no door knocking thank god.
the bad news is she's still studying, attending meetings, etc and i am still very much a "satanic influence.
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jamiebowers
JWs can't associate with her, because she's not yet an approved associate, and it will look bad on them if they do. This is all for appearance sake. Once she becomes an unbaptized publisher, things should ease up a bit if she's accepted into one of the cliques. If not, she'll remain on her own.
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Do you get a letter when you are disfellowshipped?
by Snoozy injust curious, do they give you any kind of documentation?
is it all just by word?
surely they would have to give you something?.
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jamiebowers
I never got one.
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maintaining sanity
by wizardca insigh.
i've posted a few times mostly about personal life with the wt.
i haven't been to an indoctrinationsales meeting in years (7+?).
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jamiebowers
What in the world does your fiance think of them? Are ypu baptized? If so, you can be df'd for marrying in a church or by a minister. I'm sorry you're going through this, but maybe you should just tell them the truth, that you don't consider yourself a jw, especially if you're not baptized or on your way to being df'd.
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How do i overcome this guilt and fear?
by newcomer1982 inive recently decided not to be a witness anymore and at the age of 28 was still so afraid to tell my parents.
the truth is their life and knew i would hurt them.
ive had such a battle with the elders and because my dad is an elder its even worse.
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jamiebowers
Welcome to JWN! Please read the resources that have been referred to you. Th more you learn about cults, the more you'll be convinced that you were raised in one. The Watchtower, in essence, is no different than any other cult, and it can't accurately predict Armageddon any more than any other cult can.
I havent been disfellowshipped and knew if i do i will lose my parents and their relationship with their grandson will change too.
If your parents start to shun you, and they may whether or not you're df'd, you may want their relationship with your son to change. Do you really want them freaking him out with threats of Armageddon and how his parents aren't going to make it out alive? If you decide to celebrate birthdays and holidays, do you want your son to be guilted into thinking that he is sinning?
Also, welcom Isojourn!
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jamiebowers
Very clever, funny guy!
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It has been a year since I started school ** an update**
by noni1974 inwell this time last year i was waiting for my first semester at college to start.
i had no idea how i would do in my classes.
my first semester was a complete surprise for me because not only did i do it, but, i did it well ending up on the dean's list with a 3.57 gpa for the semester.
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jamiebowers
I agree with the new estimation you have of yourself. But apparently, I'm smarter than you, because I knew it all along, LOL! Congrats sweetie, and keep on keepin' on.