the domestic violence, crime and victims (amendment) act 2012 comes into force on monday in england and wales to allow prosecution for those who stay silent over a child's serious physical abuse.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18638734.
whilst this law was put in place to stop a loophole whereby those who commit child murder claim it was someone else while they just remained silent, this now makes those who do not take steps to stop the abuse equally guilty.. elders who do not take steps to stop or report the serious abuse of minors could face prosecution and 10 years in prison.
it may no longer be good enough to tell the abused or abusers it's their right to go to authorities (per the 2010 elders manual) they now need to take action.. whether criminal prosecutions are brought against elders who masquerade as police, judge, jury and social workers whilst not themselves reporting abuse of a minor will remain to be seen, however the law now exists to make it possible.. any jw child who comes to serious harm where the elders knew about it should ask themselves - could i have stopped this by telling the police?
Now Iam definatly not going to seek any sort of justice over what happened to me as a child, knowing my Mother would also be put in prison for the rest of her life, as she was to afraid to even look my way whist my stepfather would be smashing his fists into each side of my head and kicking me in the stomach.
She couldn't be prosecuted, because the new law wasn't in place when the crimes against you happened.
i posted a long experience earlier today along with an email letter from my sister.
sent to me back in january informing me she was going to be shunning me.. had not heard a word from her for 6 months then.
my sister called out of the blue one evening last month.
This reminds me of the last family reunion on my jw mom's side. She's one of 11 children, and only three, (including her), are jws. The vast majority of the younger generations of those three who are jws never were baptized, df'd or faded. Anyway, of the 100 or so relatives who showed up, not one was a jw. And every aunt, uncle, cousin, etc., who I had a chance to talk to, told me how terrible they thought it was that my mom has been shunning me for all these years.
I wasn't disappointed that my mom failed to appear, because I didn't want to see her husband, who was abusive to my brother and me when we were children. But I did feel bad that none of the other jws in the family came. From what I heard, they had permission from the elders to attend, because the whole affair was held at a public venue. If it would've been at a df'd relative's house, then they were forbidden to attend. But it seems my mom is the queen bee in that crowd, so everyone else was afraid to be there, since she chose not to go. It would've been fun to watch the "worldly" relatives watch the jw relatives shun the df'd, faded, and unbaptized jws.
a saga.
back in november of 2011, i received a phone call from my ex, bill bowen.
he informed me that his dad had died of a massive heart attack.
Okay, let me get this straight. You were married to Bill Bowen and left the cult with him, because he discovered the Watch Tower's evil policy of covering up for child molesters. Is this correct? If so, I think your answer should've been to your mom and sister that there are LOTS of bad things to say about Jehovah's organization. There is so much bad that it's difficult to think of anything good to say about that filthy corporation!
WOW! I'm sorry, I know they're your family and all, but don't you think it's creepy that people who were so closely related to the discovery of the child molestation problem remained jws?
the drama -- i basically laughed hysterically!
i guess marriages are breaking up left and right within the organization.
a couple got married young.
The sister tells her they have grown apart and the arguments are daily and becoming violent and she just NEEDS out.
Did they actually mention violence?
Stand your ground. Two-thirds of jw young people leave the cult, so some of your kids and grandkids may be joining you soon. I'll try to find some ex-jw friends from WI on Facebook tomorrow.
my dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
Other than saying how sorry I am, the only other thing I can tell you is that you'll get used to it. My jw mom has shunned me for 24 years, and as cruel as it sounds, I very seldom think about her.
I heard of a woman in my old congregation who had three or four adult children, all of whom left the cult, and one died in a car accident by the time she passed away. I looked up her obituary on line, and the only survivor listed was her elder husband. Not one of her kids, even the one who proceeded her in death, or any of her grandchildren were mentioned. It's like two generations of her family never existed.
i have commented a few times so i figure ill introduce myself.
sorry if this is under the wrong topic, i dont as i dont participate in any other forums.
i have lurked for a while.
Welcome! It was sounding like you are a breath of fresh air until you told that fart story, LOL!
I predict that in five years or so you'll be posting here lamenting how you've learned the truth about the "truth" and have to either put up with it or lose all your jw family and friends. Hopefully you won't be married with children by then....HEAVY sigh.
3. I think family's important, so is marriage. I think it's good to have a decent relationship and get married. Call me old fashioned. I mean if people just want to be 'bf and gf' that's cool too, but marriage is a beautiful thing I respect. Even though my parents split I support the institution of marriage according to the JWs.
This is what attracted me to the jws. I had a terribly abusive childhood and wanted so much to have a happy family life. Unfortunately, I married a jw man who was dangerously abusive and wound up df'd for events surrounding my divorcing him. What exactly did you think of the Selma/Steve situation in the Watchtower mag a while back?
4. .JW's are clean, decent people. They dress well, teach their childrens good behavior. You may call it robotic but it's a protection against bad behavior to have a 'certian kind' of upbringing.
JWs are as clean and decent as much as the Watch Tower allows them to be. Clean and decent people do not condone, overlook and hide child sex abuse and domestic violence. Yet jws are required to so, because of the organization's misconstrued idea of the two witness rule. Haven't you read about the Candace Conti verdict?
5. I like that so many people of different backgrounds can co-exist in worship. The number of interacial babies/marriages is ridiculous. I don't think people know this. I know you'll laugh at me or try to disprove me with this, but I grew up in it, been in more than one congregation, and it's true. So I respect that the power of faith can triump over hate.
"Worldly" people engage in bi-racial relationships too. And the society has a terrible record on racism. Do you know that it used to be taught that black people would become white in the so-called new system, so that they could be perfect too? And if there is really such a wonderful racial brotherhood, why is there only one non-white person on the governing body?
Why not put a little research into this life changing decision? There are too many hidden agendas and rules in the jw organization. If you don't figure that out for yourself by researching before baptism, it will hit you like a ton of bricks at some point as you live the jw life.
extremely, cause it's mine!.
go shorty it's my birthday.
gonna party like it's my birthday.
I haven't been on JWN in a few days, so I missed it. Happy belated birthday, because it is important!
i have been in touch with a canadian reporter for a major newspaper.
she is interested in covering the candace conti story but needs to make it relevant to canadians.
so, she has asked if there is a canadian victim of child abuse who would be willing to speak with her.
What are the names of the two liitle sisters that were molested by their stepdad in Canada? He's in prison now. I'll try to find their names.
Edited o add: Never mind...the girls I was thinking of are from New Hampshire.
