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Questions on the changes?

by Blasty in

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so, i haven't attended a jw meeting in 11-12 years.

what is this new light?

and what did they change about the book studies?.

jamiebowers

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but speaking of new light, it seems many active jws are seeing the light all of the time, according to this post on the silentlambs guestbook.

http://www.silentlambs.org/guestbook/index.cfm

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Questions on the changes?

by Blasty in

jw
friends

so, i haven't attended a jw meeting in 11-12 years.

what is this new light?

and what did they change about the book studies?.

The latest new light that I can recall is the change in who is the generation that will not pass away. I've been out for 20 years, so pardon me, if I'm incorrect. But I think the generation has meant several things, ie: those who were the age of reason in 1914, the annointed, wicked people, etc. I think the current understanding is that this generation is wicked people. Blondie, help me out here. I couldn't keep this bullshit straight when I was a jw, and it's much harder now.

The bookstudy change is that it will no longer be held on a seperate night but shortened and combined with the TMS. The letter from the society said it was because of gas prices, but critics suspect several other reasons such as liability for meetings held in private households, shortage of elders to conduct the study, elder burn out, possiblity of child sex abuse,etc. The price of gas does seem like a lame reason, because jws in less developed countries either pay a good portion of their salary for transporation to the meetings or have to face wildlife and the like while walking to them.

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Would You Go Back?

by Dune in

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yesterday, my aunt was talking to one of my siblings about how things have been changing in our [ex] congregation for the 'better'.. she mentioned how a new circuit overseer has come in and is shaking things up.

the co appointed a ministerial servant (someone, the po & secretary didn't like and i know would never have voluntarily suggested appointment) and some of the 'brothers' that have had no 'responsibility' ever are being given #4 talks.

she also mentioned that the book study will be cancelled and the meetings are being shortened.. a ministerial servant who had a vendetta against some of the elders wants me to talk to a co and basically tell him i left the congregation [and the religion] because of the incompetence of the elders.. i'm not talking to the co and i'm not 'blaming' anyone.

jamiebowers

No, not even if they stop covering up domestic violence and child molestation.

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More on Two Child Abuse Cases in the News

by jamiebowers in

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/latestnews/eunice-spry-appeals-cruelty-sentence/article-229774-detail/article.html.

eunice spry appeals against cruelty sentence08:00 - 22-july-2008.

evil foster mother eunice spry is trying to get her 14-year jail sentence cut.. cruel spry was jailed in april last year in one of the worst cases of child abuse ever seen in the uk.. the 63-year-old tortured and beat her three foster children as part of a shocking catalogue of abuse over 20 years.. she was convicted on 24 counts of what a judge called sadistic torture.. the devout jehovah's witness forced sticks down her children's throats, made them swallow bleach and washing up liquid and told them to eat their vomit and rat droppings.. %3cbody%3e%3cdiv%20id%3d%22addiv%22%3e%3ca%20href%3d%22http%3a//ads.anm.co.uk/adclick/cid%3dfffffffcfffffffcfffffffc/aamsz%3d452x118/site%3dthisisglou/area%3dnews/subarea%3dlatestnews/article%3d229774/acc_random%3d2064128848/pageid%3d/rs%3d%22%20target%3d%22_new%22%3e%3cimg%20src%3d%22http%3a//iad.anm.co.uk/anmdefaultad.gif%22%20alt%3d%22%22%20border%3d0%20style%3d%22margin-bottom%3a%200px%3b%22%3e%3c/a%3e%3c/div%3eshe deprived them of sleep and kept one of her children in a wheelchair for years, even though she could walk.. now the court of appeal in london has received an appeal from the twice-divorced pensioner against the length of her sentence.. yesterday, her victims spoke of their anger at the appeal.. christopher spry said: right now, i'm very hurt.

jamiebowers

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/latestnews/Eunice-Spry-appeals-cruelty-sentence/article-229774-detail/article.html

Eunice Spry appeals against cruelty sentence

08:00 - 22-July-2008

EVIL foster mother Eunice Spry is trying to get her 14-year jail sentence cut.

Cruel Spry was jailed in April last year in one of the worst cases of child abuse ever seen in the UK.

The 63-year-old tortured and beat her three foster children as part of a shocking catalogue of abuse over 20 years.

She was convicted on 24 counts of what a judge called “sadistic torture”.

The devout Jehovah's Witness forced sticks down her children's throats, made them swallow bleach and washing up liquid and told them to eat their vomit and rat droppings.

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She deprived them of sleep and kept one of her children in a wheelchair for years, even though she could walk.

Now the Court of Appeal in London has received an appeal from the twice-divorced pensioner against the length of her sentence.

Yesterday, her victims spoke of their anger at the appeal.

Christopher Spry said: “Right now, I'm very hurt. She has never apologised or opened up about doing any of this and that's the most hurtful thing.

“And now she's trying to get time off her sentence and that's very upsetting.

“I was talking to one of the other victims and she was angry that she should be allowed to appeal at all.”

Christopher, 19, said she had never shown any remorse for her actions.

He said: “The last time I saw her was when she was in court.

“I caught her eye for the last 10 seconds before she was taken down and she was just smirking. This feels like she's just smirking in our faces again.

“It's a massive kick in the teeth – we want the chance now to try and get on with our lives.”

As Spry is appealing against her sentence, and not her conviction, the evidence given at her trial doesn't need to be re-examined and Christopher and other witnesses are not expected to have to appear in court.

Christopher's parents Paul, 47 and Carmel, 42, said the appeal is outrageous.

Carmel said: “She can't argue against the evidence, so I think the only thing she can be appealing on is her age.

“It's terrible that she should even be trying this appeal, she's damaged the lives of three children.”

Paul said: “This will bring it all back up for everyone all over again. Although the children are okay now, they'll never get that time back. She wasn't given a long enough sentence.”

At her trial for cruelty in March 2007, Spry was found guilty on 24 charges, including child cruelty, assault, wounding an witness intimidation, which she continued to deny throughout the trial.

Spry, who lived at George Dowty Drive, Northway, Tewkesbury, cut one child's hand open with a jagged tin lid and beat the others, stepping on their throats if they cried out.

The children were also beaten on the soles of their feet, had sandpaper rubbed in their faces and Christopher had his hand put in the flame of a gas cooker as a punishment.

The years of abuse came to light when one of the three foster children, known as Child A in the trial, spoke to members of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Tewkesbury about her bruises and reported her foster mother to the police.

Social Services were criticised for missing the abuse, even though they visited her house.

Gloucestershire County Council apologised to the children for the shortcomings which allowed Spry to get away with years of abuse.

Spry is represented by David Campbell of Sansbury Campbell solicitors in Bristol.

He said: “I can't tell you the grounds for the appeal. I have no instructions to give you that information.”

The appeal will be heard at the Royal Courts of Justice, in London. No date has been set.

In any appeal against a sentence it is possible for the new sentence to be increased as well as reduced.

http://3news.co.nz/News/NationalNews/AntonieDixonssistergivesevidenceincourt/tabid/423/articleID/64010/cat/64/Default.aspx

Antonie Dixon's sister gives evidence in court

When Antonie Dixon told the jury an astonishing tale of sexual abuse by his mother and beatings at the hands of Jehovah's Witnesses, they must have wondered whether any of it was believable.

Today they heard from someone else who was there at the time and she confirmed much of what he said.

According to Dixon's sister Carla, he was dubbed "devil spawn" by their mother.

Carla Dixon-Foxley says she was his closest friend and ally, but from a young age she knew something was not quite right with her baby brother.

"He used to bash his head on the couch and he used to just sit there and like that, bashing, bashing, bashing," Ms Dixon-Foxley says.

Ms Dixon-Foxley says Dixon was abused by their mother, who would tie him to a clothesline outside their Grey Lynn house and invite fellow members of the Jehovah's Witness church to beat him.

"It was like living in a madhouse," Ms Dixon-Foxley says.

She told the jury that Dixon was also sexually abused by members of the church. Among his abusers was one man who always carried a camera.

"Of course we know why he had the camera now," Ms Dixon-Foxley says. "He was taking pornographic pictures of my brother and his friends."

In cross examination, the Crown questioned Antonie Dixon's sister on whether she had ever seen him violent - especially violent towards his mother. She replied that as far as she was concerned, any violence towards their mother was justified.

"When you get backed into a corner for long enough and you get hurt for a long, long time, you have to jump back," Ms Dixon-Foxley says. "You have to defend yourself and that's what I believed it was. It was self-defence."

Ms Dixon-Foxley, who has a successful career as a nutritionist in London recalled a family conference where a psychiatrist asked her how she had managed to stay sane in the Dixon family home. She says she had no answer.

At the end of her evidence, Ms Dixon-Foxley blew her brother a kiss before walking over to hug him.

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People sho is funny

by IP_SEC in

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0otttixwbm.

the force is a tool of satan!!!.

lol "start wars is only for the good of humanity!!:.

jamiebowers

OMG! With all of the evil going on in the world, one would think there are many bigger fish to fry.

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A continuum of consciousness and love

by Nathan Natas in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adybfqfxg0u.

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jamiebowers

I've seen part of this video before, but I cried again anyway. The love of an animal is so profound. My husband and I went out of town for the weekend, and my stepdaughter stayed at our house to take care of our 3 cats and a dog. She said my cat, Buddy spent the whole time wandering around the house meowing. I know he was looking for me, the poor thing. He always stays right by my side.

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Do You Think this is All True?

by jamiebowers in

article from google news:.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4627015a10.html .

samurai sword accused 'chained like a dog' as a childtuesday, 22 july 2008. email a friend | printable view | have your sayrelated linkssubscribe to archivestuff.

jamiebowers

Article from Google News:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4627015a10.html

Samurai sword accused 'chained like a dog' as a child

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The sister of murder-accused Antonie Dixon has described the physical and emotional abuse her brother suffered as a child at the hands of their mother and elders from the Jehovah's Witness church to which she belonged.

In the High Court at Auckland, Carla Dixon-Foxley today gave graphic examples of the abuse their mother Belle subjected Dixon to, calling her a sick woman.

Dixon, 40, faces eight charges relating to incidents that occurred in January 2003 when Renee Gunbie and Simonne Butler were attacked with a samurai sword at Pipiroa near Thames and James Te Aute was shot dead in Auckland.

Dixon was found guilty in 2005 of eight charges, including murder and causing grievous bodily harm but the Court of Appeal later ordered a second trial, suppressing its reasons for quashing the earlier verdicts.

Ms Dixon-Foxley, 49, a nutritionist based in London, cried and struggled to regain her composure as she began her testimony, telling the court she had hoped to see her brother before she gave evidence.

Dixon cried in the dock as he looked at his sister.

Ms Dixon-Foxley said their mother was abusive, both verbally and physically.

"She hit us a lot," she said.

Mrs Dixon, who gave birth to Dixon at the age of 47, became involved with the Jehovah's Witness church and quoted biblical verse often, she said.

"She was always calling Tony the spawn of the devil, the rod of the devil," she said.

Her behaviour was very unpredictable, with constant mood swings, she said.

Dixon received the worst of their mother's punishment, she said.

"Because he was much younger, he got the full swing of it."

Their father had left home and Dixon was left at home alone to deal with their mother, she said.

"She liked to hit you across the face because it was the most effective way of suppressing you."

Dixon was chained up outside to the clothes line "like a dog," Ms Dixon-Foxley said.

Their mother would call "the brothers" of the church around to beat him, she said.

"The brothers would come and administer punishments on him."

Mrs Dixon took in boarders, many of whom had mental issues.

"It was like living in a madhouse."

Their father, who died when Dixon was 10, had been the product of an incestuous relationship and was "unable to give out much emotionally," she said.

"He was actually quite a loving father to us but he used to get harassed by our mother to beat us."

Ms Dixon-Foxley said she tried to support Dixon when he was institutionalised at Carrington Hospital.

"He was paranoid about people finding out about him."

Ms Dixon-Foxley said welfare officials were concerned with signs of "irregular behaviour".

Dixon believed people were watching him and spying on him, she said.

The trial continues.

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My grandson is 5 (pic)

by garybuss in

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his father's mother took this picture this noon at his birthday swimming party picnic.

i'm extremely proud of my sons and their families.

i'm glad to support those who welcome me.

jamiebowers

Hi jamiebowers, This is my only grandchild and he lives in the same town. You wrote: "your posts really make me laugh" I see you have a taste for irreverent sarcasm. We'd probably get along just fine on bowling night.

Sorry, can't bowl--partially paralyzed leg gets in the way. But I bet I'd have a fine time lmao. Yes, I love dry, irreverent sarcasam. Is there any kind of humor?

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