Posts by Esmeralda

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To all who so generously sent loving thoughts

by Mommie Dark in

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well, like the proverbial bad penny, mommie dark is back again.

the last week has been a long drugged blur (and kent, i can hear you snickering about how that isn't a bad thing .

to all who sent such wonderful greetings and good wishes, my sincere thanks.

Esmeralda

Yayyyyyyy! MommieD returns! I'm sending lots of love and warm thoughts your way...and am so happy and relieved to hear that you're back home!!!

Love you muchly!
essie

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Baby is here! Photos attached!

by LDH in

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11-19 3:30 pm 7 lbs 13 oz, 21 in.. i don't how how to add the photos, but if you want to see pictures, go to http://www.webphotos.com/list_albums.asp?mi=1&smi=1.

i think this is right (mommy help me!

lisa

Esmeralda

Awwww! Congratulations to you and hubby, Lisa, he is a tiny little work of art.

I am now sick of the comments and am responding with a few smartass comments of my own.

Good for you girl! This issue always makes me SO angry! People talk about 'mixed' babies and I can only say all babies are HUMANS. Nothing else counts! Every one is a miracle and so beautiful.

If anyone said anything like that and you were with me, I'd have to respond something like this:

"It's a wonder you can see him at all...How do you manage to see anything with your head so far up your ass?"

Don't let the idiots get to you! They are so ignorant that I doubt they'll ever know or understand what love is in this lifetime.

Please kiss his perfect little face for me!!!

love
essie

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i haven't told this to very many people, so here goes.. when i was a child, my parents became jw's (i was almost 5), so i had celebrated christmas a few times, but have few memories of it, other than the bubble lights, and a huge tree and my grandparent's house.

when we stopped celebrating it, i didn't really "get it", and i still believed in santa claus.

i just thought he didn't come to our house anymore.

Esmeralda

Hi Marilyn,

*hug* to you for your story...

Just a little bit here on me, my daughter, and the Santa thing.

My (JW) parents never bothered to mention to me about Santa, so when I went to pre-school at the age of 4 and heard the story, I didn't believe it *lol* I got in the car one day after class and said to my mom "You're not gonna believe this. The kids told me there is some fat guy with a beard who rides in this sled that a bunch of bambis make go and he gives presents to all the kids in the whole world in one night."

*lol* A born skeptic I guess! My mom explained to me then, and honestly, as a kid I never 'missed' Christmas. I didn't know any better. I really didn't want to celebrate it until I had my own child and was out of the org.

Since we just had our first Christmas tree last year, when my daughter saw Santa on tv and asked who he was, I told her the truth. She is big-time into knowing how things 'really' work and I knew if I tried to tell her the tale, it wouldn't fly. I figured that starting out at that age with Christmas, it would be a better lesson for her to know that her gifts come from the hard work of those who love her, not from some fictitious benevolent bearded stranger.

If she were really little...I'm not sure what I'd tell her.

Incidentally, I had no idea that my daughter had, at so young an age, already figured out Mickey Mouse. Recently she said to me "You know, Mom, that there are people in the Mickey outfits." My heart sank. She's just turning six next month and already, she knows that.

But then as they said in Monsters Inc. kids are becoming "harder to scare" and I believe also harder to convince of anything.

Maybe that's the saddest part of all. The innocence of childhood is something really rare these days.

One thing I did do was make sure that she knows not to spoil the story for other kids. She wouldn't want to be the one to disappoint them. She's also giving a toy to Toys for Tots so that another child can have a happy Christmas morning. When I asked her if she thought that was a good idea, she said to me "Maybe we can give more than one, Mom. I have so many toys already."

: )

*hugs* to you Mulan!

love
essie

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Dr Phil's "Get Real Challenge"

by Esmeralda in

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i was just wondering if anyone is watching the dr. phil get real challenge that will be running all season, on tuesdays on oprah.. i'm curious if anyone wants to kind of 'buddy up' in a small group and follow the program and writing exercises (there is an online workbook).

please let me know if you're interested.

i'm emphasizing "small" for the sake of really being able to interact and not letting it get out of control.

Esmeralda

Hey Lamb and closer, got ya down.

Hey Eyebrow, the shows started 2 weeks ago so I'm already behind *lol* Keep me posted how you're feeling after the baby comes and check out the workbook online when you can and then let me know if you want to join in later on. :)

Thanks for your interest. I'm really happy to get the chance to do this with you :)

I've never set up a yahoogroup before so you guys feel free to give me input on how you think its working/not working and how we can improve it. We'll make it up as we go along.

I'll start the e mails as soon as everyone responds to the original e mail.

love
essie

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Dr Phil's "Get Real Challenge"

by Esmeralda in

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i was just wondering if anyone is watching the dr. phil get real challenge that will be running all season, on tuesdays on oprah.. i'm curious if anyone wants to kind of 'buddy up' in a small group and follow the program and writing exercises (there is an online workbook).

please let me know if you're interested.

i'm emphasizing "small" for the sake of really being able to interact and not letting it get out of control.

Esmeralda

Cool Mulan!

I'm going to set up a yahoo group for the e mails.

The URL for the info on the challenge is in my post above, there is an online workbook that you can do and print out. I'll be doing mine and sharing that info with the group.

Pat asked if you can do this without seeing the show...I think it'd be a lot easier if you can see it/tape it and watch it at your convienience. But as long as you do the exercises on the site I think that'll work.

Pretty much all I will ask of participants is that they do the exercises, (so we stay on the topic, the challenge) and that they don't share the info on this board or talk about it outside (so people feel they can say what they really feel)

This is NOT an 'elite' group. so don't nobody go there! Those rules about keeping it to yourself is necessary if we're going to be able to be honest.

I'm still working out the particulars but I'll put you down, Mulan.

Pat, if you want to give it a go that's great too :)

That's three of us. Any more?

essie

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Dr Phil's "Get Real Challenge"

by Esmeralda in

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i was just wondering if anyone is watching the dr. phil get real challenge that will be running all season, on tuesdays on oprah.. i'm curious if anyone wants to kind of 'buddy up' in a small group and follow the program and writing exercises (there is an online workbook).

please let me know if you're interested.

i'm emphasizing "small" for the sake of really being able to interact and not letting it get out of control.

Esmeralda

Hey Pat,

Take a look at the website and see what you think... maybe you can tape the show? I usually do and then watch it when the house is quiet, I get a lot more out of it than with my kid tugging at me LOL.

Thanks outnfree! You too can take a look at the website and see what you think.

Let me know if this link works: if it doesn't go to Oprah.com and you should be able to find it on the "dr Phil" link on the left.

: http://www.oprah.com/phil/grc/challenge/challenge_your.jhtml

Thanks for the replies! :)

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Dr Phil's "Get Real Challenge"

by Esmeralda in

jw
friends

i was just wondering if anyone is watching the dr. phil get real challenge that will be running all season, on tuesdays on oprah.. i'm curious if anyone wants to kind of 'buddy up' in a small group and follow the program and writing exercises (there is an online workbook).

please let me know if you're interested.

i'm emphasizing "small" for the sake of really being able to interact and not letting it get out of control.

Esmeralda

I was just wondering if anyone is watching the Dr. Phil Get Real challenge that will be running all season, on Tuesdays on Oprah.

I'm curious if anyone wants to kind of 'buddy up' in a small group and follow the program and writing exercises (there is an online workbook)

Please let me know if you're interested. I'm emphasizing "small" for the sake of really being able to interact and not letting it get out of control. (my health limitations and all)

I'm looking for 5 people who want to doing this. If I get more than five people then maybe the group could be expanded to eight or ten. (I think an even number would be good)

This is for people who are serious only. It would not be for entertainment.

Let me know if you want to do this. Even if I only get one response I'd be happy to have an e mail buddy specifically to talk about this with.

[email protected]

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Holidays

by celebrate in

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having grown up in a jw household, celebrating holidays was always a problem.

my mother is catholic, so we tried to celebrate, but somehow the jws always had something bad to say, or they went to another part of the house.

a christmas tree was a symbol of satan.

Esmeralda

You said it, Wasasister! What you said about traditions is so true.

When I had my first "tree" christmas last year and my inlaws came and brought the family ornaments, and explained the meaning of each one, I got to bond with them in a way I never imagined.

Celebrate, you go girl! And if you want to know more about my feelings on celebrating holidays you can check this out:
: http://www.wtsurvivors.homestead.com/Gratitude.html

all the best
essie

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Online Automatic Poetry Generator..........TRY IT!

by nicolaou in

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it's completely crap!

but hilarious too - i entered the keywords 'faith' and 'religion' and this is what it gave me!!!.

http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~esincoff/poetry/jpoetry.html.

Esmeralda

*ROFLMAO* leather/combat boots came up with...

This is my "Ode to my leather combat boots"

Colorless clouds swirled above the leather like a flame
Not a shanty ever was known with such envisionability
With lightning strokes, the combat boots shot foreward;keenly, swiftly
She spun out of the train, a trail of woolly blade of grass following.
"Holy flying mushroom cloud, Batman!" she said briskly
She became many men in a dejected tank.
The sight of the emerald komono dragon before her, the leather was stiffened
With doubtful knees and final resolution I can
So deal not with this once thy glorious professor.

I'm crying i'm laughing so hard

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Letting go of JW relatives (Long)

by MegaDude in

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i've been out of the jws for some time now, seven years.

like many of you, i left a lot of acquaintances, friends, and family behind.. the acquaintances were fairly easy to let go, the friends very hard, and the family, well, near impossible, at least up until now.

that she should listen to both sides of the story without fear and make her own decision.

Esmeralda

((((((((mega))))))))))

Being that we're both INFJ, I bet our positions in our families were similiar too.

You know, I agonized for three years about not seeing my cousins, who were like sisters to me.

When we did run into eachother at my father's bedside at the hospital and the cousin I'd been closest with walked past me without even saying a word, while my Dad was still in critical condition, something happened inside me that I can't describe. It didn't hurt, it was like by doing that she killed so many of the feelings I had.

The relatives actually came over to my house twice to visit my dad while he recouperated here. After making small talk with them over coffee for a couple hours, I realized that we have absolutely nothing in common and even if they weren't shunning me, I am so different now that our interactions would be filled with awkward silence. They are super-dubs. I am...definitely not.

I don't miss them anymore. I realized that I've become too different and that I wouldn't want to be who I was before even if that gave me my family back. Not only don't they know me, but I really don't know them anymore either.

Now contrast that with the members of my family who still deign to see me: My mother, my oldest sister. That is more of a hell in many ways than not seeing the others was. Because they just can't help themselves...they have to keep trying to revisit the past and get me to reconsider reinstatement. It got so stressful for me that I finally had to back way off and tell my sister that if she couldn't keep off the subject, we couldn't see eachother until she could.

I've seen her once in the past three months. She came to visit my daughter.

She still mentioned their "special comforting work" and the collections that the society was taking for the "Ny disaster"

They just can't stop themselves.

I hope that you find some peace in this. That is the best that any of us can hope for... some peace.

*hugs*
essie