Mulan and Princess,
I am so sorry for your loss. I will remember your birthday tomorrow, and Sharon as well. Wish there was more I could say. You are in my thoughts, and you are loved.
*hugs*
essie
my mom's cousin sharon passed away at 1:30pm thursday september 6, 2001. she was a lovely person and was always more like a sister than a cousin.
mulan held her hand every step of the way through a battle with breast cancer and she was with her when she died.. mom's birthday is tomorrow.
now she will celebrate sharon's life along with her own every year at this time.. i wish there was some way to ease your pain mom.
Mulan and Princess,
I am so sorry for your loss. I will remember your birthday tomorrow, and Sharon as well. Wish there was more I could say. You are in my thoughts, and you are loved.
*hugs*
essie
* http://24hour.newsobserver.com/24hour/world/story/754769p-796464c.html.
french bishop convicted for keeping quiet about sexual abuse.
by frederic veille, associated press .
Hey Tallyman,
Just wanted to say thank you for posting that article here. Like you, I am totally disgusted that the bishop got that non-sentence. I agree with you that he should be locked up with the slime that molested all those poor boys.
As far as the issue that was raised that we are focusing here on JW predators...why shouldn't we? We were JW's, we know it goes on and most of us still have family in the Borginazation.
I have a five year old daughter who regularly attends meetings and social functions with my JW ex. I am afraid for her and am always warning my ex not to trust anyone just because they are a "brother".
My sister was molested as a child at a congregation picnic only feet away from where my parents were eating. she could see them the entire time it was happening! She was too small, too young, too innocent to understand what was happening at the time.
She didn't tell anyone about the event until she was nearly 30, 25 years after it happened. Still, only immediate family know it happened, let alone who did it (he's dead now) But it happens, and I want WT rules to change because my little one is still in there, against my will. That is just one of the reasons I focus on JW molesters.
Of course I care about other molestation victims. Sadly, the majority of my friends survivors of it. But the fight for children everywhere has to begin somewhere. So we all do what we can, in whatever arena.
Tally...I just wanted to offer you a hug and quote words to a song we both know...to remind you that your feelings and frustration on this are shared.
My life goes on in endless song,
above earth's lamentations,
I hear the real, though far-off hymn
that hails a new creation.Thought all the tumult and the strife
I hear it's music ringing,
it sounds an echo in my soul,
how can I keep from singing?When tyrants tremble in their fear,
and hear their death knell ringing,
when friends rejoice, both far and near
how can I keep from singing?In prison cell and dungeon vile,
our thoughts to them are winging,
when friends by shame are undefiled
how can I keep from singing? ~ Roma Ryan
All we can do is keep bringing attention to the subject of abuse on all fronts, and hope that our friends who have been imprisoned by years of shame and silence will finally make it out to the light.
It's time for the abusers to go to jail!!!
*hugs* to ya, Tally
essie
mormon church settles lawsuit.
september 5, 2001. sex abuse lawsuit is settled by mormons for $3 million.
by gustav niebuhr.
thanks for the article, silentlambs. Goes to show that all churches are being held responsible for protecting pedophiles. Why should the Tower be any different?
Run Watchtower Run, indeed.
love
essie
dear all,.
it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.
it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.
Hey Prisca,
Sorry to hear you feel you need to go. I certainly understand it though! I remember being so ticked off at Rick on H2O when I first got there. Someone said that something I said was stupid or some such thing, and he posted to me that I was now swimming with sharks and would either put on a wire mesh suit and learn how to swim or I'd be eaten alive. I can see now that I was learning a valuable lesson.
I have learned several since then. Some here on this board. One of the first was that not everyone in life is going to like you, no matter how you are or what you do. Some will see sensitivity as weakness, some will see strength as bitchyness. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
There are people whose posts I read, others who could call me every vile name in the book and I couldn't care less. I know who I am. I don't need validation anymore from other people. And that is something that I can't say was true of me two years ago! I also learned that people can only abuse me if I let them. I've learned where to draw the line and quit trying to argue with people who aren't listening anyway.
Perhaps realizing that I didn't really care what people in general think of me is the best lesson I have learned from these boards after living in Dubland, and wanting to please everyone all the time. Now, I do the best I can, and at the end of the day, I can live with that.
Do whatever your heart tells you. Keep the friends you've made close, if you do go. True good friends are hard to find in this life. You will be missed if you do go.
health and happiness!
essie
in case you are missing me a little, i am very involved with my dying cousin.
right now it is the middle of the night, and i can't sleep.
my grief is becoming overwhelming.
Second attempt to post in this thread, hope it doesn't repeat.
Mulan, you've been through way too much lately. I'm so sorry, I wish I could be there to sit with you during your vigil. I have cousins who were closer than sisters as well. They persist in shunning and I believe they think that life is infinite. That there is always time later to make up for it. I wish they didn't delude themselves that way and wouldn't waste any more precious time we could have together.
As Sharon's situation reminds us all so tragically that we are not immortal, and that the people we love dearly leave us all too soon, far too often.
So so sorry. Wish I could say something more profound. There are no words eloquent enough to begin to capture how precious and fragile life is. Tonight, I can't even begin to try.
My heart goes out to you and Princess. Please hug eachother for me...
love
essie
on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.
mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.
he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.
Doug,
I am so very sorry for your loss. I can only begin to imagine your sadness. I don't think anyone could ever be prepared to lose a good parent, no matter how long or full a life they led.
I know that your Dad gave a lot of his life to the religion. It speaks volumes about him, though, that he also gave a lot to you. You speak of him beautifully, and have definitely done right by him, even though his JW memorial service will not.
I cry thinking of you playing and him singing. I know you won't ever forget the sound of that beautiful music.
I salute him, and you.
*hug*
Lily Paige
this was posted on one of the mailing lists.
anyone who has further info please write me .
my sister just informed me that my other sister who is an active jw, said all those who are unbaptized publishers and active baptized witnesses have been invited to attend a special meeting some time this month (september 2001).
Hello Jan my friend :)
I started a thread on this awhile back, here's the url
: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10717&site=3#131317
lots of interesting theories about what it might be about.
Tonight I saw my Mom's card on her fridge, it has a place for your name and congregation name. You have to hand it in when you get there.
My mom is under the impression that this was only a meeting that would go on in the US, can you confirm that it's going to be world wide? I've only heard that its going to be in four locations in the US. I only know personally of one specifically...
I guess that 'active' publishers can get cards, that one elder per hall was designated to give them out. So unbaptized people can go so long as they're 'regular' in service.
On the top of the card it said something like: "Supplemental meeting to the Annual Meeting, October 7th 2001"
I don't remember the rest...
hope this helps!
love
essie
the ultrasound results are in: foxy and i are going to be having a baby girl, sometime around the end of january!
yippie!.
i'm just realizing, though, that i know nothing about girls, having grown up with three brothers.
Woooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooo!!!!! Finally a "neice" to spoil and love!!! :) :) :)
Princess is right, girls ARE expensive! But just wait until you see her in a little tutu for the first time... your heart is going to just melt! *lol*
You know that you can always write to me privately if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer. Foxy too! I'm only five and a half years into this daughter-raising thing but I'm having the time of my life :)
love you much!
your cybersis
essie
question.
my mother told my husband that there is to be a 'special meeting' in october at the local sports arena (same place as dc's are held here) and that "only publishers are allowed to attend" that they will get "special cards" for admission from their local congregation and have to hand them in to get into the building.
i have no idea if this has anything to do with the "annual meeting" they always have (isn't that generally in october?
Hey Maximus, :)
I don't know how 'historic' this thing is gonna be...but we'll see! I casually asked my sister about it today and her reply was that it was no big deal...simply a hook up to listen to the Annual meeting. Her husband is an elder and is supposed to be setting up the sound for the event.
If you want to know the location they'll be going to, mail me and I'll tell you privately. She might not even make it there herself, however. She's under the impression that it's so minor that she planned a vacation during that week!
We'll see what happens. I have to laugh to think that my mother could be a security breach *LOL* Any info on what it's really about? e mail me if you can't post it!
*hugs*
essie
now up on the web: the first part of the story of the way my family reacted to my father's near death medical emergency and how the blood issue factored in.. i'm hoping to get the second installment done this weekend and up by monday evening.. : http://www.wtsurvivors.homestead.com/sky.html.
*hugs*.
essie
Hi waiting
I had a very turbulant relationship with my father up until three years ago. That is why I was so upset at the thought of losing him now, when we seemed to be getting it together.
I am grateful that I have good things to remember. I have many dear friends who, like you, had no reason to love their fathers. And damn good reasons not to.
I post my story not to get attention or for 'support'. I post it because how the blood issue factors in later on. How a parallel emergency in my husband's family at the same time also involved blood, and how the two families handled the situations. That's why I posted the link instead of the story here. That way if it doesn't interest someone, they can choose not to go to the link.
I hope the info might cause a lurker or two to think hard about leaving their medical decisions up to their relatives.
Sorry you had it rough. We all have problems and handle them the best that we can.
es