after a few years of humming and hawing, i decided i would.
it was more of what i would take that held me back then if i should go.. i'm only 28, so i'm not too far behind.
we'll see how working full time and going to school will go.
Well I studied day/block release while working full time like others and got my degree equibient at 25. So it wasn't so bad.
What are you studying then? I think i'd like a degree in mathematics but its unlikely that i'll be doing that anytime soon!
I'm taking Spanish evening lcases at the moment and those are fun.
dear new ones,.
sometimes you post your first post in the middle of a thread, and you slip by without being properly "welcomed"!
so we want to welcome you and thank you all for stepping forward, for sharing your comments and your stories.
welcome fellow newbies :D
please congratulate me on my posting prowess - have reached my 4000 post mark!.
cakes all round!
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Gratz!
i've been thinking about this a lot, because i've chosen to fade and i would never refer to myself as a jdub, but i've read postings from others who do.
i would have written a letter a year ago but i've got older parents who are upset enough about me just not attending.
on another thread someone is also leaving and they were advised to tell the jc to do whatever, to not acknowledge that they have any authority.
Not now - i think there is residual "dub"ness sometimes which is scary but its getting less often. it was very ingrained, it took 2.5 years of not being in the borg before i was able to surf the net with the idea of finding anti jw stuff. I find this site and go on and read it and not feel guilty at all. which is great. i antiwitness now but i think thats cos im quite bitter. i want to get past the bitterness.
i just wanted to share an encouraging thought with anyone who is struggling to fade away from the watchtower.
six years ago, when i first started posting here, i was a ministerial servant with doubts.
my wife was an active sister and my 11 and 12 year old sons were enrolled in the theocratic ministry school and going out in field service every week along with their 7 year old sister.. there has been a lot of stress and tears along the way, my wife and i often wondered what our future would bring, but i can honestly say that we have made it.
well done nic - wish i'd been a bad little dub and found this website BEFORE i left so i could have gone about a fade properly and with support rather than being shunned. This site is invaluable to me now cos its helping me get rid of my ingrained teacings.
i can even admit i was in a cult!
well last night our family was invited over to my brother's place for supper and my parents were invited as well.
my brother is an amazing cook and wasting that talent with a menial job, but that is another story, we get to benefit from his cooking.
so the conversation eventually comes around to the blood issue and the sextuplets, it has been so long since i have had a conversation with active dubs that this was very interesting to watch.
He was appointed and deleted several times and it never phased him one way or the other. He did get in trouble for creating a social group of all the old timer elders that had been deleted. They all brewed their own wine and would hang out and socialize. They adopted special titles reflecting their "fall from grace" and jokingly greeted each other at the hall by the new title.
I think the younger elders complained to the CO and my dad was asked to refrain from using such titles anymore. It was really, really funny, but I can't name the title here as no doubt it could be used to easily identify him.
Can you tell us any of the other titles? He sound really fun. Wish i was clever! hubby has semi photographic memory aswell - really annoying, no wonder i dont enter debates - i dont bother to argue! thankfully we agree on most things otherwise id be in right trouble! he thinks my "logic" is most amusing.
glad you had a good supper and that your family associate with you, it means alot to have family around.
mine- popular mechanics, this old house and maybe a sunset.
batman comic novels - knightshade and so on (my hubby reads em, me i sit on the loo and leave after ive wiped my bum so no need to read)
i started a thread a long hug http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/128891/1.ashx which touches on the below, but feel this subject deserves a thread of its own.. a study, highlighted on bbc breakfast news yesterday, acknowledged the importance of holding hands in a relationship, courting or married.
it was stated that couples who hold hands in the street are more likely to have a solid relationship - and especially those who interlink their fingers when holding hands as this indicates a desire to be as close to each other as possible.
arm linking is ok, too, but couples who just walk about not holding hands - and this includes married couples - indicates the relationship could be in trouble.. do you hold hands with your spouse/partner?
simon and i hold hands all the time and snog in the street. we even hold hands sitting opposite each other in a restaurant.
i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.
i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.
this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.
One of my best friends in the troof is gay. it's so sad - i haven't seen him for 3 years. he's trying within the borg and managed to not get df'd when his guilt over a realationship with another bro bought them both to confess their "sins" to the borg. we went on holiday together after his split and we spent the whole hol talking about the people we wanted to be with. we sure opened the eyes of the other bro with us!
who btw was WARNED against associating with me "because of what happened between her and her father may have effected her spirituality" he wasn't even in my cong - i never knew the elder and so had to tell about the abuse to someone i didn't really know! so much for confidentiality.
mind you i never got in trouble for going on hol with 2 bros. i think they'd given up on me by that point.
i hope my friend ends up as happy as you one day. maybe i ought to send a link to this post... the borg is so cruel heaping on that guilt to something entirely natural i know what you mean by not being sure about the past - if it didn't happen we wouldn't be us. i might even still be in the borg SHUDDER
hi everyone, i recently joined this forum as i'm close to being df.
i am suppose to meet with a judical committee soon but was thinking that i don't want to go through those personal questions that i'm sure the elders would ask.
does anyone know, is it better to just tell the elders before, say like on the phone, that i want to be df and not go through the committee?
if you know youre going to be DF why bother turning up? and i 3rd megsmomma and crumpet - if u do, record it!
