INTJ here. Adding my name to the list.
neverendingjourney
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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)
by done4good ini am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.
many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.
intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?
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No Blood windshield stickers
by HappyDad ini just walked back from getting my mail and happen to walk right by an automobile that belongs to the jw's who live in the end of my building.
the sticker in the low left of the windshield caught my attention so i stopped to read it.
it was a sticker that said......advanced medical directive.....no blood!
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neverendingjourney
A medical directive has to be in a form prescribed by law. I'm unaware of any jurisdiction where a decal on a car would be binding. It wouldn't make sense on its face. What about passengers? What if the person driving borrowed the car from someone else?
It might, however, serve the purpose of alerting medical staff that the people in the car might have executed a directive in proper legal form.
In any event, it seems redundant. They would almost certainly search their wallets/purses, where a properly executed directive would be found.
My guess is that the decal idea was started by a field service supplies company. Once someone buys it, other people at the hall don't want to be left out, so it catches on.
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G.B. TALK URGING CHILD BAPTISM!
by The Searcher inthe introduction & conclusion to this video is in german, but david splanes' words are loud and clear in english - get your kid baptized asap!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33pwdsuvlq&feature=youtu.be.
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neverendingjourney
the teachings of the WTS are total BS, but I don't agree that learning to sit and be attentive for a couple hours is cruel.
If you don't think dressing a 5-year old in a suit and punshing him if he doesn't sit still for 2 hours is cruel, then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
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G.B. TALK URGING CHILD BAPTISM!
by The Searcher inthe introduction & conclusion to this video is in german, but david splanes' words are loud and clear in english - get your kid baptized asap!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33pwdsuvlq&feature=youtu.be.
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neverendingjourney
Children should act, speak, and dress like miniature adults at all times, regardless of age.
It took years for me to fully understand this. I was born into the religion and because my parents were poor immigrants, I had adult responsibilities thrust upon me at a very young age anyway, so I was in many ways an adult by the age of 15.
After leaving the Witnesses as an adult in my mid 20s, it began to dawn on me how cruel it was to expect children to behave like adults during meetings. While most other churches had Sunday school or alternative programs for children, Witnesses expected children to sit like grown adults for 2 hours listening to boring nonsense while wearing a suit and tie. In retrospect it seems like a cruel and bizarre practice.
Aside from it potentially being a product of being a policy written by childless octogenarians in Bethel, I think it's also largely a product of trying to enforce a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Adolescence is a modern concept. It was commonly understood as recently as a century ago that youth ended in mid adolesnce, roughly at 14 or 15 years of age. In Mexico they would celebrate quinceañeras, which was a girl's 15th birthday, a symbol to the outside world that she was now a woman and could be courted for marriage. Both my father and mother were expected to have jobs, and indeed had jobs, before the age of 10.
The Bible was written in an era that was even more draconian. There is no provision in the Bible for adolescence as we understand it today. Therefore, the Society tries to enforce a worldview that was prevalent during that era, one in which it was assumed that a child stopped being a "child" much earlier than is acceptable today. That view is an underlying assumption in all of the cultures from which the Bible sprang.
Just thinking out loud here (figuratively), but I wonder if this isn't the same reason artists depicted the child Christ as a miniature adult in artworks up through the Renaissance?
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"Hello from Phats"
by phats inhay out there.. wife got back from her thursday meeting & now she's setteled down with the dog, a v large g&t (maid be me) & watching terminator 2 on the telly with her ipad on her lap looking up places to go for our holiday (& googling symptoms of to many antibiotics as my 16 year old is getting signs of ibs).
so now is a good time to say hello.. well hello.
my name is phats & i'm an ex jehovah's witness.. there, i've said it.. this must be like it is going to your first aa meeting.. i've already used up some of my posts for a newbe but i'm not in to the whole long story thing.. basically i've been out now for 8 years (mentally out for all but four or five of those years of my life when i made the commitment, got baptized & married.).
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neverendingjourney
Hi neverendingjourney
Yes I'm an ex Witness & here I've fund somewhere that I can understand others like me. We all have our story. I used to be terrified of hearing the JW subject come up in secular situations. It would freeze me to the very core of my being, even to the point of obtaining a stammer when I was in primary school. I got over it & I'm cool with it. It got me to see that even things that seem impossible to over come can be fought & beaten because I beat it fair & square. That helped me later on in life. (I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy though)
I went through something similar after leaving. My JW past was a closely-guarded secret for years. When I first had to tell my roommate, I was nervous and stammering like an idiot. After a few more years, I came to understand that it wasn't healthy for me to carry it around like a secret, so I began to be more open with people about it.
Most people fail to realize the significance of it. While I know that my religious past is one of the most influential factors in who I've become, as far as the outside world is concerned, it's a minor footnote in my biography. Realizing that was a huge relief and a step forward in my recovery.
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"Hello from Phats"
by phats inhay out there.. wife got back from her thursday meeting & now she's setteled down with the dog, a v large g&t (maid be me) & watching terminator 2 on the telly with her ipad on her lap looking up places to go for our holiday (& googling symptoms of to many antibiotics as my 16 year old is getting signs of ibs).
so now is a good time to say hello.. well hello.
my name is phats & i'm an ex jehovah's witness.. there, i've said it.. this must be like it is going to your first aa meeting.. i've already used up some of my posts for a newbe but i'm not in to the whole long story thing.. basically i've been out now for 8 years (mentally out for all but four or five of those years of my life when i made the commitment, got baptized & married.).
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neverendingjourney
Hello, Phats. Welcome.
I was listening to an ex-Mormon podcast yesterday where the word "post-Mormon" was used. I liked that. I think from now I'll consider myself a "post-Witness."
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New video release at district convention. Do Jws live like this?
by solomon ini just got back from the district convention and watched the new video.
can't remember what it is called but the main family live in a million dollar home and there teenage daughter drives a red convertable sports car.
probably worth about 50000$.
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neverendingjourney
There was a YPA video that was released some 15 years ago. It, too, had an upper-middle class family (by U.S. standards) at its center. They would have had to have been pulling in at least $200k a year to afford that lifestyle.
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Lawrence Krauss
by KateWild inkrauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.
hence his science is biased.
being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.
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neverendingjourney
Albert Einstein was an anti-unicornist, therefore his science was biased.
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80 Year old COBE Layoff Conspiracy
by XBEHERE inwho else thinks something is afoot with this?
is the gb deciding to go back to pre-1971 times with perhaps the cobe as the man in charge and the rest just ministerial servants.
so for this reason they want younger men in those postitions?
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neverendingjourney
If the mandatory put-to-pasture rules applies to the GB (and that's a big "if"), one could reason it's an effort by the current GB to avoid situations where GB members were barely lucid and wore diapers yet still held sway over the body.
If it doesn't apply to the GB, your guess is as good as mine.
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The End of The World Delusion
by cassuk11 inbeing pushed by religion since the 17th century.
my question is why ?.
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neverendingjourney
Below is in many respects the same reasoning used to arrive at the 1914 date, except this particular chart failed in 1844 and resulted in the Great Disappointment. The end didn't come as promised.
Charles T Russell picked it up, changed a few start dates and landed on 1914 as the year the end would come. That, too, failed, but his followers were able to convince millions that they actually predicted something different altogether, the beginning of the "end times." Here we are 100 years later (and 170 years after the Great Disappointed) and millions of Witnesses around the world cling to this belief.
100 years from now they (or a group just like them) will cling to a modified version of the same damn thing.
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