the decision is not mine to make and no one other than the potential parent has the right to dictate what takes place. Nobody know all the details of a person's life and what is right for them.
I couldn't have said this better.
nj
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
the decision is not mine to make and no one other than the potential parent has the right to dictate what takes place. Nobody know all the details of a person's life and what is right for them.
I couldn't have said this better.
nj
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
Thanks nico,
What people don't understand is that in "most cases" it's not a decision that is made lightly. "oh i'm pregnant I'm just gonna get rid of it" and most women don't use it as birth control. It's very easy to judge someone when you have never been in that particular situation.
I've since had 3 children, 3 full term pregnancies and 3 live births! I DO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RAISE A CHILD, money or no money it is physically and mentally challenging. Anyone can get goverment assistance, money is not the decision maker!
nj
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
In all due respect, how do you know
How do I know? I know because it was MY life, I know what frame of mind I had at the time, I knew what my financial circumstances were at the time, I knew that the father would not have helped me and that I was in no position to give the love and nurture that a child needed. I'm not talking hypothetically (sp?), I'm talking from personal experience. This happened to ME! The choice was not easy by any means and I still think about that child to this day. But I don't regret it for one minute.
You talk about someone pissing you off, how dare you question my motive for something I personally went through!
That's why it a choice, jut because I feel one way doesn't mean you have to feel the same way. I refuse to judge people and push my opinions on someone else, maybe you should try it.
nj
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
If the father doesn't want the child, and the mother doesn't want it either -- even going to the extreme of murdering it while still in her womb -- why not give the child up for adoption
Speaking from personal experience - there is no way I could have given up a child to adoption after carrying it 9 months, feeling it kick and move inside me. Had I gone through labor and delivery there is no way I could have given up that child. Keeping the child would have not been in it's best interest, there is no way I would have been able to properly care for the child and the child would have suffered.
nj
dear friends,.
much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.
however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.
The only way to describe me today is The rain and dreary weather is taking a toll on me and I can't shake it. I've been depressed all day and I just wanna go home and get back in bed! The day won't be over anytime soon because I have a CME dinner tonight so I won't be home until after 9:00pm.
The only good point to the CME dinner is that it's a good restaruant, with good food and wine and it's FREE!
Have a good day everyone!
How long would it take to gather enough ear-wax to make a decent sized candle?
AO - It didn't take long for Shrek to get enough, just one finger full of ear wax and he had a candle
nj
no, not gas, not a kidney stone... .
i passed my phd exams!!!!!!
ugh.
Congrats Kudra!
nj
below is a copy of the e-mail my sister sent me.
i had to make arrangements for my kids to be babysat somewhere else until after the wedding.
there little hearts are broken.
Zamora - Welcome to JWD,
If I were you, I'd go to the wedding and the reception and if brother L asked me to leave, I'd tell him to kiss my A$$, he has no authority to ban you from anything or tell your sister what she can and cannot do! Period end of discussion!!!
I hate elders, especially NAZI ELDERS
nj
Sorry for the rant!
dear friends,.
much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.
however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.
Bad day at work today
Oh BB, I'm sorry. I hope tomorrow is better
Hey everyone - my day was long, it was rainy and dreary so of course my attitude and energy was at the same dreary level as the weather I had a funny patient today, she had alzheimers age 72 and she kept looking at me with a suprized look on her face saying "who are you"? and where am I? When I would tell her she'd say Oh, that's right, how are you today sweetheart? She was so funny she made me laugh the whole visit!
Hope you all had a wonderful day and those that didn't we'll hope tomorrow is better!
nj
the hell with that.
my husband came to my store today telling me that we are so close to the end now, he can tell by all the changes in meetings.
you know the kool-aid edition and time frames etc.
Have a glass of wine with me to celebrate! I know it must feel good to be able to say "I'm ready, time to move on". Congrats A&W
nj
the old saying "happiness is the best revenge", to me that is the most rubbing statement i can ever hear right now.. .
someone mentioned that jw's dont think anyone can have true happiness outside of their religion, i dont necessarily buy this.. .
when someone is happy inside the borg, they say its jehovah's blessing, when someone is happy outside the borg they say that satan is blessing them.
I acknowledge the pain of being raised a JW. But I will not allow that cult to make me miserable for the rest of my life. I'm an adult now, I put my past experiences in perspective and accept them for what they are/were. I don't have the time or the desire to remain bitter and angry for things that were done in the past. I really could care less what people in the borg think of me or my life. I don't give them too much thought either. I choose to be happy.
By no means does this say to anyone that feels different that they are wrong in the way the see things. This is just the way I choose to live my life.
nj