Congrats NYCkid! and I agree it's never too late!
Enjoy
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Graduating from collge next week
by NYCkid ini just wanted share that i am graduating from columbia university next week with an undergraduate degree in sociology at the age of 39. see, it's never too late, for anyone out there considering attending college.. my partner and around 10 of my closest friends will be there to cheer me on, which is overshadowing any disappointment that my family will not be there, or as of today, yet to acknowledge this accomplishment that means so much to me (i sent grad announcements a few weeks ago along with an invite).
in all honestly, they live across the country so it is an expensive trip.. anyway, despite the student loans, hard work and sacrifices, it has been well worth it.
i remember back in h.s in the late 1980s, i begged my parents to let me attend college, but of course, the end was coming and it was a waste of time.
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This is how JW's view the change in the book study
by TooBad TooSad ina very good friend of mine is convinced that the change in the book study arrangement.
is a sign that the end is so near and the jehovah made the change to emphasize the.
importance of the meetings.
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I thought it was because of the gas prices
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Just because you can find it in your size....
by Wordly Andre inyesterday, i was in court and was sitting in the front row going through my paperwork waiting to see if the defendant will show, i look across the walk way and there is a very large latina girl sitting directly across from me.
she was wearing a short little black dress that had a slit all the way up to ass cheek, her boobs were nearly popping out, her little black dress shoes looked as if she was baking bread in them.
now don't get me wrong i have nothing against full figured girls, however there are limits, i mean did she not know that when she sat down her dress went up over her ass?
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I understand completely. Just today I was sitting in the doctors office first I see older woman looked like she was 50, had on a bright yellow halter top she had boobies on her back that clearly needed a bra, skin tight denim capri pants that showed way more of her love handles and camel toe than I or anyone else there would ever want to see, flip flops with nasty, crusty toes and heals, nail polish that had to be left over from last summer and when she lifted her arms to pick up the baby she had a forest under there
Second lady had to be at least 250lbs with spandex shorts and a tee shirt that was 5 sizes too small, I'm glad she had her feet covered I can only imagine!
I guess some people don't look in the mirror before leaving the house and don't have any family or friends that would tell them that they look a "hot mess"!
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JW's from "The World" have a easier time going "Back Out Into The World"?
by BBOARD inwe all know how hard it is, usually, for those rasied in the truth to readjust "outside in the world" once they leave ... so not to undermine them (esp.
for those who came in later in life - regardless of how many times from the podium you were instructed not to "leave the love you had at first" many of you are here because you found out the "truth about the truth" whether it was the people or doctrine or combination ... and were willing to open your mind, realize the "truth about the truth" and leave.
not to undermine all those years and mind numbing propaganda you endured in the jw's, but i have always felt: .
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these two statements come as slightly contradictory nj
Not contradictory at all.
My experience is children are mirrors reflecting what is around them give them a good morale foundation yes that helps but give them alternate friends to the druggies etc and that helps too.
Your right nothing can protect your kids completely but in my experience offering alternatives helps, as well as a morality with a real base not just opinion based, because what parent can have any credibility with a child saying for example "don't have sex till your older" if that parent themselves is going out and having sex etc with multiple partners as is the norm, Children are quick to pick up hypocracy if you are saying "Do as i say not as I do" but even if you can teach morals and be a good example you can't stop the child thinking "they are old they don't understand what it's like now"
I've never once said to my children, do or don't do this because I said so. Neither did I say you can't because the JW's or the bible says so. What I did tell them is that if you do this there is a great possiblility that the consequence will be this. Now do you want this particular consequence or not? With sex or even drugs, my example was I did such and such and I think you would be better off not doing it, but if you so choose to experiement with it, here are the consequences. I would rather you wait to have sex until you are at least 18, but if you choose to experiment here is how you protect yourself from unwanted pregnancies and disease.
The best way to teach our children in my opinion is by real life experience. If my child ask me a question about sex, drugs or anything else, if I can relate through personal experience then I do. If I've never done it or experienced it we sit down and search the topic until he's satisified with an answer.
To me saying "the bible tells us not to do this" or Jehooba will not bless you or you will die at the big A" is not a good answer. You might as well say because I said so, and as you stated already that's not good enough. So who's being contraditory now?
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That's really naive for you to think that way because the biggest drug addicts and the most sexually active teens that I grew up with were JW's.
Did they get drawn into prostitution, get raped, die from glue-sniffing/drugs get shoot/stab each other? well the ones I see on the outside have your lot beat. I really argue that statement that in some way the JW's make kids more likely to do this,
I don't know I didn't hang around them and I didn't hang out with the JW's long enough to find out. I do know that 1 girl has 8 children by 6 different me and has been df'd and reinstated so many times she probably has lost count. Still trying to be a JW and live a double life, by the all her babies daddies are JW's and none of them are around.
JW's as with any moral religion provides an alternative social group where normally there isn't one which has got to be better than the usual, do it or don't do it choice.
Yeah but the JW's don't give you a simple do it or don't do it. For many if you choose the later you loose your entire support system.
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JD where the hell hav ya been? You weren't in the big house, were you?
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JW's from "The World" have a easier time going "Back Out Into The World"?
by BBOARD inwe all know how hard it is, usually, for those rasied in the truth to readjust "outside in the world" once they leave ... so not to undermine them (esp.
for those who came in later in life - regardless of how many times from the podium you were instructed not to "leave the love you had at first" many of you are here because you found out the "truth about the truth" whether it was the people or doctrine or combination ... and were willing to open your mind, realize the "truth about the truth" and leave.
not to undermine all those years and mind numbing propaganda you endured in the jw's, but i have always felt: .
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That's not a strawman arguement it's a fact. It's also a fact that you can be the best parent in the world, teach them all the right and wrong things and they will grow up and live their life the way they want.
My point is that raising children is trial and error. Everything does not work for every child, there is no book on how to raise them and as parents we will make mistakes. But in the end it doesn't take the bible or a man made organization to successfully raise your children. I you can't teach your kids your moral values, right from wrong, common sense they why do you keep having them is my question. Do you really thing that just because you raise them as JW's they won't experiement with drugs, sex or any other evil you can imagine? That's really naive for you to think that way because the biggest drug addicts and the most sexually active teens that I grew up with were JW's.
We are talking about our kids not government. The government is filled with grown people some good and some bad, I no more than you can dictate to them what to or not to do.
I'm still wondering why you are here and have not skipped your JW butt back to the KH already. That's really what you want so go.
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JW's from "The World" have a easier time going "Back Out Into The World"?
by BBOARD inwe all know how hard it is, usually, for those rasied in the truth to readjust "outside in the world" once they leave ... so not to undermine them (esp.
for those who came in later in life - regardless of how many times from the podium you were instructed not to "leave the love you had at first" many of you are here because you found out the "truth about the truth" whether it was the people or doctrine or combination ... and were willing to open your mind, realize the "truth about the truth" and leave.
not to undermine all those years and mind numbing propaganda you endured in the jw's, but i have always felt: .
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Just as a mum, i'm tempted to bring my child up in the Jw's (Mindcontrol aside) Christmas and birthdays are a small price to pay if I can protect her from Druggies and Std's from teen-sex.
That's called good parenting and it can be done without religion especially JW's. If you don't feel you have the capabilities to be a good parent and teach your children right from wrong, how to treat others, not to use drug or have sex in the teens the you shouldn't have had children.
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A year ago today
by wings ini posted for the first time on jwd.. thank you for putting up with me, and for being there for me.. what a difference a year makes........... i love you all!!!!
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Happy JWD birthday
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Does this happen to you?
by dogisgod inlets say you are just happily reading a book or newspaper and on the next page the word "jehovah" will jump out at you (and i mean that it's really there but it just kinda magnifies itself).
samething with kingdumb halls.
you'll be in a foreign community and drive by one and it's like "oh my god, a kingdumb hall!!
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My reaction to seeing a kingdum hall is usually *F@#(*&N kingdum hall* and I pass one everyday.
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An ancient poster stopping by to say HI!
by ShaunaC inhello al!
i am an old poster from this websites early days.
i was here a lot during 2001-2003. during the days of posters like:.
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Welcome back Shauna!
To any of you who are newly out, it does get better if you look at life as a set of experiences to teach you something about yourself, the world and those around you. Don't be bitter, don't carry the anger. It will only hold you back from becoming the truly remarkable person you already showed you are when you decided to leave the JW's. It takes a lot of strength to do that and you'll continue to use that strength (even though at times you'll doubt you have any) to learn who you really are apart from that organization, your family, and those brainwashed ideas. You can do it and you will be happier for it.
I hope you are all doing well and are happy in your freedom. Freedom of thought really is worth any cost we have all had to pay.
You really hit the nail on the head with this one and I hope this helps someone who maybe lurking in the shadows confused, lost, hurt and wondering how the hell will they make it!
Thanks for posting that.
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Edited to add: congrats on the marraige and future babies. <wife of 22 years and mom of 3> Give them everything you didn't have especially the unconditional love.