Happy belated birthday, and welcome to the board!!!!
nj
just saying hi to all here in the forum.
im 26yrs old as of today!
so happy b-day to me.
Happy belated birthday, and welcome to the board!!!!
nj
happy are the shunned, since they will have peace and quiet!!!
truer words were never spoken.. for all of you who understandably miss your family, just think of the troubles those of us have to endure when some of our jw family refuse to shun us and make it their lifes work to 'encourage' your return to the cult with threats of imminent death by their ever loving god!.
my mother!
Hey Gill,
I wish my mother would shun me too!!! She did for a while, but after I began shunning her she had a change of heart!!!
About a month ago she mailed me a bible, I quickly packaged it up and sent it back, express mail with a note saying, "cult material is not allowed in my home"!!!
You can imagine the phone call I got 2 days later Sometimes I wish she would just disappear, I call them once a month to check on their health and to see what my triffling (7 kids all different daddies, but noless the GOLDEN CHILD) is up to, and we always get into a heated discussion about the big A, and that my kids are now old enough that maybe they will survive, it's my fault they don't know Jehovah, but I'm definetaly a gonner. I told her that I wish he'd get it over already cause I'm tired of hearing it!
Why were we blessed with parents that won't follow the rules????
nj
another thread with a subject set up as a teaser trailing an ellipsis.
i refuse to be manipulated!
tell us what it's regarding in the subject so we can know whether we even need to open it.
so.... mom calls me saturday to see if my 12 year old son wants to go to the memorial.
she left voicemail, so i managed to ignore the call until monday was safely past.
then, when i talk to her, she mentioned how many people were there, how nice it was, the nice elders in her kh.
Hey vanilla,
I don't get it either. I really don't get the fade, I guess to each his own. I just feel that if family and friends are going to not speak to or have any thing to do with me because I don't believe what they believe, then to hell with them. I don't need people in my life like that.
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone who is currently fading, you do what you gotta do, but for me as I said before, to hell with them!
nj
boy do i miss you guys.
i wanted to let you know what is going on with me these days.. as most of you know, i have been having some marital/family problems.
things are still going slow but better i think.
good for you!!!!!
Keep us informed and tell the daughter congrats!!
nj
i am really feeling down today, can't stop crying.
i just need some words of encouragement from other parents that i will survive my kids' teen years.
my 13 year old is trying to discover/find herself, has emotional issues--since birth, cuts/burns herself secretly--she is on prozac, in regular counseling, spent time last year in a physchiatric hospital, and just generally always has stomach aches or conflicts with other peers and is flunking math as usual as well as getting bad grades in citizenship lately.. my 17 year old son is on probation for being in a fight last fall, and does illegal stuff for cash.
I think all parents feel this way from time to time.
I have 3 boys - my oldest, on many occasion has made me fell like I must have been the worst parent ever!!!! He called last night and told me that he loves me more than life, I've always been a good mother and I'm not responsible for the choices he has made in life!! Wow, it took 24 years for that one and many many tears!!!
My #2 son, just recently I found some things in his room and gave him the ultimatum (sp?), if he wants to live his life that way he can do it on his own!! - we talked a day or two later and he appologized for what I found, admitted he was wrong and had no reason to have done what he did. "I love you mom", "and I never want to see you that upset or cry because of me, again"!!! Wow that took 19 years
I'm waiting, holding my breath to see what #3 has in store for me
Don't blame yourself for the choices your children make. Be firm with them, say what you mean and mean what you say, give them unconditional love and support, but don't let them put the blame on you!!!
Hang in there sweetie, if you want to talk, PM me, I'm more than happy to share my experiences!
nj
my name is sharon,and i have a lil sister that just had her husband of 20 years run out on her with out telling her anything,he just packed up and left,and was also late on their morgage for two months 3000 behind,she has her own home daycare but she only had three children in her daycare when he left,she did not know if she was going to have to move or not,and he was steady calling her and messing with her about anything,she is a good person,he put her in a very deep depression,recently she told her family she was hearing voices calling her name out every where she goes,it will start as a whisper,then it would get louder,so we came over and talk with some of the witnesses,we told her to say a loud prayer to jehovah god,and she was also playing the kingdom melodies,and watching a video of a bible study,and she was reading the bible,and while she was doing all that she was still hearing the voices,that made her family think that it was something else wrong with her,she has been trying to get a bible study started and she has it in her heart to learn and serve jahovah god and jesus christ,could some one please help us or tell us what coild be going on if you know anything please because we really love our sister very much,we lost our parents we dont want to lose our sister.
Your sister needs the help of a qualified physician, not listening to kindom melodies and watching bible studies!!
nj
i took ill the morning after the memorial (my wife and i both attended.
we arrived about 30 minutes after first symptoms.
the ems guys were at my house in .
Zack, I'm glad you are ok. Good you had this discussion with your wife now, instead of it being in the midst of a life threating emergency!!
Good luck
nj
ok, so my next door neighbor is thanks i'm slightly insane, we're friends and he actually knows i'm insane.
i think he finds it hard to believe that a religion can be so controlling.
please halp me, and remember that whatever you say may be used in an article i'm writing for the atlanta journal constitution.
OK - here is a little of me and my family:
My parents became Jdubs when I was a couple of months old. I have 4 older brothers, 1 older sister and one younger sister. Growing up my siblings and I were very, very close and I truly believe that my parents were the best parents they knew how to be and really didn't think that the way they were raising us was bad.
Being Jdubs as you all know, we spent relentless hours of bible study, watchtower study, door 2 door, and living at the KH. Beatings were a regular occurance at the meetings whether you couldn't keep totally still for 2 hours, or you fell asleep, talked to your sibling, didn't answer the required number of questions/comments and god forbid you didn't follow along with the scriptures.
From a very early age (5-6) I hated going to the KH and door to door, and I remember telling my brother that as soon as I was "grown up" I would never go again. I watched my brothers grow up and get into trouble (normal teenage stuff), they seemed to alway be meeting with the elders for some crime they committed, they got way more beatings than I did. One time I remember my brother #4, got beat so bad that he had bleeding whelps across his back and legs, my mom had to put ointment and bandage them!
My oldest brother left home at 18 and joined the Military, told my parents he couldn't take anymore of the beatings or JW's religion, we were not allowed to speak with him. My brother #4 and I would quickly answer the phone whenever it rang to see if it was him so we could say hi before mom or dad would hang up.
My brother's #2 and #3 got df'd and reinstated so many time I couldn't keep up. I guess they couldn't take the shunning and loss of family. My sister married a JW and he abused her, beat her, raped her in front of her children, The elders did nothing, told her he was her head and she needed to be in submission.
My brother #4 was constantly in and out of trouble, I don't think he got df'd while he was a teenage, just reproved. He married had 3 kids, turned out to be a chronic lier and drug addict. Not sure what's going on in his life now, but that's another story.
Brothers #2 and #3 are still faithfull JDUBS, they do not shunn me or my other siblings, but they play the JW game very well!!
As for me, I was a rebel from day one. When I was 13 my dad told me that I either had to get baptized or get out of his house, so I got baptized. That was the beginning of the end. That allowed the elders to really get involved in my life. As I got older it got worse. Would sneak out at night, skip school to be with boyfriend(s), had an abortion at age 15, parents never knew, but somehow the elders got wind of it and I had a JC meeting. Of course I denied it all and got over that time. I was kinda of dating (talking to over the phone) an elders son, we went bolling one time and was in the car kissing, he couldn't wait to get home and confess to his dad - another JC meeting. This went on and on for most of my teenage years, anytime the elders would question me about some crime I'd deny it and they'd counsel me. It always amazed me how my parents never disiplined us without going to the elders, the elder always had to be involved.
Anyway, when I was 17 I got pregnant, when my mom found out immediatly the elders were called, but this time I refused to meet with them, shortly thereafter I turned 18 and told them all to kiss my @@@!! I was working, moved in with my best friend and her family, had my son, eventually moved into my own place and never called my parents. We started talking after my son was born then after I got married they started shunning me. That was fine with me I actually shunned them back, about 3 months after my second son was born my parents showed up at my house to tell me that they missed me and wanted to see the grandchildren. I still have a very strained relationship with them, we only talk about 1 a month.
I guess I don't really feel I missed anything by leaving the borg because of all the drama I endured being raised as a JW and I always had non witnoid friends. That gave me a perspective because I had "outside support"!
Whew! I know I left out a lot of things but that's the jist of it!!
it is my parents wedding anniversary saturday and every year since i left i have always sent them a card.
i wondered whether i should or not this year.
on balance i wasn't sure what would upset them more - waiting for a card that never came, or receiving a card at all, especially since i said in december that i wouldn't "bother" them anymore.. anyway it felt right to send a card so i did and i decided to put a little note inside, folded and bearing the message: "my news, but don't read it if you aren't interested".
((((((((((((((((((nina))))))))))))))))
I think they probably enjoy receiving little bits of "how you are", even if they won't admit it. I have 3 sons and would never be able to shun them no matter what they did, they are a part of me!!!
My parent's tried the shunning thing with me, they were successfull with two of my older brothers and my older sister, but instead of trying to contact them, I shunned them, kept my children away from them and had no contact with them at all. My mom would call me and I'd hang up. This went on for about 6 months, when one day my parents showed up at my house and told me that they missed me and wanted to see their grandchildren!!
I told them that it would be on my terms, not theirs and that they were forbidden to take my children to the KH, read bible stories to them or say anything about religion.
Maybe the fact that I wasn't df'd, but I da'd myself that made them ok to talk to me, I don't know. I still don't have a good relationship with them, I call about once a month to see how their health is and that's about it!!
nj