Good for you Logical.
Simon, maybe LaraK signed up to post, but used WT strategy to pretend she hadn't read the posts, so didn't know what she was doing.
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Why is this an APOSTATE site?!?
by LaraK ini made a big mistake when signing up at this supposed website for jehovah's witnesses.
after reading some things on this site it has become apparent to me that this site is nothing put another pathetic site for apostates: people who betrayed jehovah, left the truth, and are so bitter about their experiene in the truth, and they are angry just like satan because they know they will very soon be dead at jehovah's hand!.
this website should be renamed something more fitting like "satan's playground" or a similar name that would get across the message of your site.. sincerely,.
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"Sharing" a piece of myself - part 2
by Tallyman inif you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.
to the print appearing below @.
* http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing2.html.
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Tom, if three police officers couldn't disarm your brother, what chance did you have?
(((((((Tom)))))))
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"Sharing" a piece of myself - part 4
by Tallyman inif you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.
to the print appearing below @.
* http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing4.html.
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Tom, I have read all four parts of your story. You have surely been through the mill.
I understand that you feel badly at what happened to your brother, but if you hadn't managed to stop him, it would possibly have been 2 lives lost, yours and your fathers. So what else could you do, when the police were too scared to do anything.You obviously have inner strength and courage, and I hope that you will also have an inner peace from your hurt in the near future.
(((((((Tom)))))))
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New to board :)
by Zargoonah Gulaab inhello everyone i am new to this board and look forward to getting to know everyoneee....just wanted to say that, thanks bye bye.
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Hi, glad to meet you
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Let's go Watchtower shopping!!
by sf inwow!!
who needs a new bookbag?
perhaps a door hanger stating a scripture straight from the "good/evilbook" itself...the new world translation!
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What about these bookmarks?
BM1 Reminders Teaching on Bible Studies .25 no tassel
BM2 Reminders for Apartment Witnessing
BM3 Reminders for Magazine WitnessingROFLOL
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When things started to "fall off"
by comment ini was thinking about this in several areas today.. 1) district conventions and house-to-house work.
if you were a witness for a long time, you probably remember a time when going to the conventions seemed perfectly "normal" to you: it was absolutely "the thing" to sit in a sports arena all day listening to bible talks and counsel from men in suits.. but at some point, did you ever start to feel like you were participating in a cultural relic, so to speak?.
as in, "here it is, the 1990's, and the society is still using fundamentally the same old format they've been using all century long.
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I think that the main reason for d2d is to keep the dubs really busy. The JWs are supposed to be up-to-date with the mags and literature so that they can place them. So it was one way make sure that everyone read the literature. The way it was explained to me was that if you are giving out spiritually, you need to keep topping it up.
Didn't work for me, though, because I pioneered for years, without reading the literature first. OOps, guess that is why I am here now.
IMO, this is just part of the mind-control over the JWs.
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Why does the WTBTS survive?
by Skimmer inback in late 1973 when i got my fatal doubts about the wtbts, i was sure that the society would crumble soon after 1975 when yet another prediction failed.
i was not alone with this thought; a british author by the name of stevenson (an exjw that had written an expose) allocated an entire chapter in his book about the likelihood that there would be a very major falling away in 1976 or soon thereafter.. but it didn't happen.
yes, there were several years of consecutive worldwide declines.
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In our congregation, nothing much was made of 1975, except that it was the end of 6000 years. The elders just pointed to the fact that it was just a date, and pointed to Matt 24:36 about no-one knowing the day etc. As they said, the 6000 years would have been known to Jesus, and even Satan, and so would the time of Eve's creation. So, to us, 1975 was just a sign-post along the way. That made more sense to me than that 1975 would be the start of Armageddon.
Simon, you said
The main thing is that people should be allowed to leave if they want without fear of any reprisals (like losing family and friends). If they gave up the bully boy tactics I'm sure more would leave.
Exactly. It would also lead to the open discussion of doubts, and people would be less inclined to 'Wait on Jehovah' when they realised that their own doubts were not due to their lack of study etc.esther
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JUSTICE #10 - What you say will be Twisted
by Amazing ina lawyer once told me, "everything you say can and will be twisted against you in a court of law.".
a situation came up that recalled yet another act of jw justice.
another person commented to me regarding the above, "no doubt this little axiom more than applies in judicial committee meetings too.
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Amazing, you say
A lawyer once told me, "EVERYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE TWISTED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW."
I know that this is unfortunately true.
However, in a court of law accused ones have a chance to defend themselves, with representation.
DB, you say
However, as a guy who sat on a few committees myself, I think we really did try to effect justice, at least to some degree.
While I agree that there are elders who do try, personal feelings affect judgement. Until the elders are able to stop putting the welfare of the organization above the welfare of people, there will be no true justice.esther
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JUSTICE #9 - We're Gonna Get You!
by Amazing ini was very close friends with brother "kind" who was a jw for over 30 years.
kind did not know this file existed.. one evening, bro.
the po was on the committee, and bro.
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Amazing, this part
He was not allowed to see the evidence or the conclusions drawn from it by the Elders involved
would have had the case thrown out in court of law.
Even hardened criminals get the opportunity to know what evidence is being presented against them.
By the way, shouldn't this one be #9?
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Hey, Brooklyn, Don't Start What You Can't Finish!
by Englishman init's strange how life has a tendency to balance things out, to ultimately repay us for both our bad deeds and our good deeds.. how ironic it is that the wtbts's policy on shunning has now become a major force that actually unites searchers for justice throughout the world!
what a smack in the teeth to this unilateral org, they themselves through their appalling treatment of ex's, have finished up simply pushing so called apostates into each others arms!.
would sites such as this exist if the wtbts rescinded their belief in shunning?
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Englishman, you ask
Would sites such as this exist if the WTBTS rescinded their belief in shunning?
While i agree with you that the shunning policy is a major uniting factor, I think they might still exist.
Some examples of reasons that such sites could be needed are:
The WTS changes policy, and pretends they have not done so.
The blood issue, causing unnecessary deaths, is enforced, although the society says it is a conscience matter.
They constantly harass the JWs to do more in 'placing literature', bible study work, meeting attendance and meeting preparation.esther