First time i seen cc machines was while a delegate to an International CONvention in Hamburg Germany back in 2006. That was probably one more thing to add to my growing list of concerns regarding the Organization. I was removed as an elder a few months later, and completely jumped ship summer of 07. Sooooo glad I dont have to deal with that anymore. I am with Dave Ramsey... nomore cc. I get mine paid off....no more. How about,that financial AND religious freedom?
SnakesInTheTower
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You can now get into debt using credit cards to donation to the JW's
by life is to short ini knew this was coming but to actually see it was another thing.. i am a huge dave ramsey follower where he hates debt and charging on credit cards.
he totally feels everyone should be out of debt and pay cash only.
that everyone needs to do plastic plastic surgery to cut up their credit cards.
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Any dave ramsey fans here?
by c5 inhey!
long time since i have been here.
lots and lots of new posters.
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Bump... i ran across dave ramsey recently. Despite my aversion to all things religious now that i am out of the JW cult, and even though ramsey is an Evangelical, i rather like his system. Wonder if the original posters stayed with dave ramsey system? And now he is streaming his radio show in HD video...
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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JWs still in that believe and are lurking
by cognac injust wanted to say hi.
i understand how you may feel.
i remember lurking here years ago cause i didn't want to tell the elders on myself and have a judicial committee if i could figure a way out of it.
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Hi cogac...long time no see. I have been out since 2007, but lurked here ss an elder....
So long ago
Snakes...typing poorly on a tablet
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Are you really an Apostate, according to the WT ?
by Phizzy inperusing the coverage of the 2013 dc spewings about apostates, the wt claims that apostates are "liars" and speak "twisted things".
this is their definition of apostates.. now, the reality is that sites such as paul's excellent jwfacts.com, books like coc and isocf, by ray franz, the works of olaf jonsson, penton and others, all write what is true !.
we are careful on here to present that which is true, at least i hope we are !.
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You might be a redneck... I mean apostate if...
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Tech49 on HOURS, TIME, and REPORTS
by Tech49 ini thought i would share some of my observations on counting field service time, reports, etc.
and how those reports are viewed, to those that are still so fixated on numbers.. i served as secretary on the service committee for many years, and have seen it all!.
i was really disheartened when wt changed the requirement for aux pioneering to allow for 30 hrs, instead of the 50 it has been for so long.
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Anyone here been Dfd for 'apostacy'?
by Julia Orwell injust wanna know.
i'm doing the fade but i reckon my big mouth could get me dfd.
i know plenty who've been dfd for fornication/adultery, but never met one dfd for speaking the truth.
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Somewhere on this board, poster Donuthole and I have discussed the JC that I was on as an elder. He was accused of and DF for apostasy. It was a kangaroo court the whole time. I didn't agree but if I disagreed to much, then I was on the hot seat. Glad we are both out (him DF, me faded out.
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The CO 'encourages' Julia to meet with THREE elders- the latest episode in the best-selling drama, The Fade of Julia Orwell.
by Julia Orwell init was yesterday morning and hubby and i were having a huge sleep in.
it was just after ten, and with me being a bit flu-ey i was quite capable of staying in bed longer.
hubby was feeling it too, and we were pleasantly drifting in and out to the sounds of birds.. then suddenly, cloomp, cloomp, cloomp up the front stairs, then "rap-rap-rap" on the front screen door, that rapid-fire, strong knock of the practiced door-knocker.
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Set up indeed. CO playing good cop to their bad cop. Classic. Not classy. I agree with Blondie, unannounced visits are rude. Will tell a story later about a recent set of visits we had..unannounced. watch out for these jokers. This is not the last of this.
SnakesITT...(of the "nice snake" sheep class)
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Who is supposed to do the "Separating Work" for the new magazines?
by nochoice inso, there is a bit of a fight going on in our hall between our pioneer sisters and our magazine servant.
since the new magazines are boxed with two issues together, there is a bit of work to be done separating them.
our magazine servant stacked them on the counter as usual, right out of the box.
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The Borg, back in the 70s when my dad was the lit servant, brought home a box or two of tracts. They needed a stamp on the back cover with the KH contact info before handing out to the publishers. He paid my brother and I (we were probably about 7-10 years old) to do it.
so this has been going on for years.
about 10 years ago I think, when this personalized tract thing started up again, I figured out how to print the info directly on the tracts by feeding them in the printer. I probably lost 20% of them to printer jams. I also toasted a whole toner cartridge. Unfortunately, it was my printer and toner, and worst of all, my time.
The next campaign I printed out 1,000 labels separated the tracts, and put the labels on the tracts myself.
The next campaign I printed out the labels but separated the tracts and gave them to the publishers with the labels to put on.
The last time I was involved I just gave them bundles of tracts and thought "f*ck it"
The next campaign.... oh wait... I left the borg for good summer of 2007.
Ironically, I think I still have a partial box of address labels left from that nonsense.
Snakes (Rich )
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Who is supposed to do the "Separating Work" for the new magazines?
by nochoice inso, there is a bit of a fight going on in our hall between our pioneer sisters and our magazine servant.
since the new magazines are boxed with two issues together, there is a bit of work to be done separating them.
our magazine servant stacked them on the counter as usual, right out of the box.
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I am sure any day now the Governing Body® and its pharisaical Helpers™ will issue yet another mind numbing page and a half Letter to the Elders® describing in step by step detail how to handle this new Arrangement™ with an accompanying Announcement© to the Congregation™ to be read at the shortened Service Meeting® and then read again after the shortened Watchtower© Study, along with a postscript advising the Elders® to destroy all previous Letters to the Elders® and update the Index of Letters®© showing the new procedure will involve the Service Overseer©, and the Magazine Servant™ along with their assistants (in larger congregations) to meet on Saturday after Field Service™ to open the boxes and separate these smaller magazines tracts so that the Publishers® will more willingly offer them in the Magazine Tract work.
Oh, I am sorry, did I forget paragraphs in my run on sentence.
Snakes (Rich, of the formerly having lots of titles in the Borg Sheep Class)